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D. 12-27-2012 11:21 PM

god I'm way more invested in this than I originally planned. Never mind I'm going to bed.:noway:

reprise85 12-27-2012 11:28 PM

goodnight D.

i agree though, if you think they deserve abuse in jail, own that shit. doesn't mean anything is wrong with you. it's quite an understandable position, IMO

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 12:05 AM

OK honestly, I didn't specifically mean rape in that original comment of mine, I meant extortion and physical threats (which I clarified two posts later), which is actually a more plausible scenario in prisons. I really didn't mean rape.

But now that you mention it...

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. (Post 3949790)
illogical/hateful/naive/ or ignorant opinion and, when I'd disagree with him or show him how he was wrong,


Except no one in this thread ever said WHY I was wrong at all. If anything you seem like that ignorant friend of yours. I called you out and asked you a simple question, and you backpedaled with this big huge reply, then retreated.

Also, how is an opinion wrong?

Sheesh, the amount of idiocy here is staggering.

reprise85 12-28-2012 12:20 AM

I said why I think you're wrong, but you're right it's an opinion and I'm not trying to get at who is right or wrong, just clarification.

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 12:23 AM

In my opinion, I am right and everyone else is wrong. So I guess I win again.

Bread Regal 12-28-2012 02:32 AM

Soniclovenoize is being willfully obtuse and trolling very badly. He's just trying to find a creative outlet auxiliary to his shitty twee-psych indie band.

But the whole I-have-kids-therefore-my-wrongheaded-views-on-punitive-vengeance-are-justified bullshit is actually fairly prevalent in online discussions about this sort of thing. It's like there's this assumption that participating in the creation of a child comes with special privileges. And that annoys me the end.

Rairun 12-28-2012 05:29 AM

What I always like to suggest is that if people really think rapists should be raped in prison, they should try to legislate it into the penal code instead of being glad it happens due to neglect. No "if you know what I mean" bullshit. The problem with that is, of course, that it looks barbaric on paper, like stoning or whipping would - and that's exactly my point.

But then again they have the death penalty in America, so maybe it's better not to make that suggestion.

Eulogy 12-28-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread Regal (Post 3949869)
Soniclovenoize is being willfully obtuse and trolling very badly. He's just trying to find a creative outlet auxiliary to his shitty twee-psych indie band.

But the whole I-have-kids-therefore-my-wrongheaded-views-on-punitive-vengeance-are-justified bullshit is actually fairly prevalent in online discussions about this sort of thing. It's like there's this assumption that participating in the creation of a child comes with special privileges. And that annoys me the end.

ugh, this

Eulogy 12-28-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 3949659)
Why do you condone child molestation? Are you going to give me the old "Oh it's acceptable in some societies" defense?

and i want to point this out as a special kind of stupid.

D. 12-28-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread Regal (Post 3949869)
Soniclovenoize is being willfully obtuse and trolling very badly. He's just trying to find a creative outlet auxiliary to his shitty twee-psych indie band.

But the whole I-have-kids-therefore-my-wrongheaded-views-on-punitive-vengeance-are-justified bullshit is actually fairly prevalent in online discussions about this sort of thing. It's like there's this assumption that participating in the creation of a child comes with special privileges. And that annoys me the end.

+

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3949938)
and i want to point this out as a special kind of stupid.

Especially since no one condoned child molestation. He pulled a Fox News!

Kahlo 12-28-2012 10:08 AM

Is he trolling or is he actually mentally challenged?

I'm going to go with his posting history which would tend to lean towards the latter.

Cool As Ice Cream 12-28-2012 10:27 AM

i think he's serious.

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 11:46 AM

Holy shit here comes the goon squad.

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 11:49 AM

Six against one, these are bad odds. I give up, I admit defeat. :(

Rider 12-28-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo (Post 3949943)
Is he trolling or is he actually mentally challenged?

I'm going to go with his posting history which would tend to lean towards the latter.

He actually is mentally challenged. I've seen him do some amazingly retarded shit on some of the 50 other message boards he posts on.

reprise85 12-28-2012 06:31 PM

oh come on now

Rider 12-28-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 3950071)
oh come on now

No I'm serios go check out the retarded shit on the E6 townhall. For a guy with kids and a band he has endless amounts of time to fill the internet with idiocy.

reprise85 12-28-2012 06:36 PM

i just tried and it says my IP is banned. weird.

Rider 12-28-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 3950073)
i just tried and it says my IP is banned. weird.

Yeah they have horrible spam filters there. They banned Julian Koster last week when he tried to post a message about the Music Tapes calling people on Christmas Day.

I don't hang out there because there is only so much soniclovenoize a person can take.

meangreensp 12-28-2012 06:44 PM

Seriously, the gang of douchers on this forum is quite possibly a collection of the world's worst people. What a bunch of pretentious cocks.

Rider 12-28-2012 06:47 PM

I once tried to leak some unheard NMH tapes over there I posted one track anonymously not saying what it was SNL was the first person to reply not realizing what it was he said it was dumb and talked about how horrible it was. So I said fuck it and pulled track figuring Jeff was right and no one deserved to hear these tapes.

Like I said he's retarded.

reprise85 12-28-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meangreensp (Post 3950077)
Seriously, the gang of douchers on this forum is quite possibly a collection of the world's worst people. What a bunch of pretentious cocks.

funny, you're the worst current poster, up there with Katy Lied/Pretzel Logic

in fact, are you the same person?

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950072)
He actually is mentally challenged. I've seen him do some amazingly retarded shit on some of the 50 other message boards he posts on

Wow what's with this crazy stalker stuff! :eek:

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950078)
I once tried to leak some unheard NMH tapes over there I posted one track anonymously not saying what it was SNL was the first person to reply not realizing what it was he said it was dumb and talked about how horrible it was. So I said fuck it and pulled track figuring Jeff was right and no one deserved to hear these tapes.

Like I said he's retarded.

Aw what's wrong did I hurt your feelings? Now you don't want to share your toys with all the other kids?

Jesus Christ grow up. I thought you were a man, but nearly every time I see you post, it's some of the most juvenile things I've ever seen.

I suppose I'd rather be retarded than a pathetic child.

D. 12-28-2012 07:33 PM

Now I haven't heard these nmh tapes of which you speak but in SNL's defense, isn't it entirely possible that the song did suck? Not everything mangum touches turns to gold; maybe you liked them simply because they were mangum?

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. (Post 3950092)
Now I haven't heard these nmh tapes of which you speak but in SNL's defense, isn't it entirely possible that the song did suck? Not everything mangum touches turns to gold; maybe you liked them simply because they were mangum?

I only vaguely remember this happening. But honestly I care so very little, I'm not going to bother looking it up. I really could care less what Rider of all people think of me, nor will I buy into a trolling method to make me go look for something I barely remember anyways. He can post a link to the thread if he wants, our archives go back over a decade. I could probably explain what happened.

Also, anyone feel free to read literally everything I have posted on that site: http://e6townhall.com/search.php?searchid=407995
I assure you it will be a very inane read, and probably a lot of it will be foreign and out of context, not knowing those bands or the regular posters on that site (just like if an outside just started reading the Gen Board here).

redbreegull 12-28-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950078)

Like I said he's retarded.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/24...ff9d8257a4.jpg

Kahlo 12-28-2012 08:04 PM

and redbreegull of all people posted pot kettle black.

HEADASPLODE

meangreensp 12-28-2012 08:14 PM

The attitudes in this thread are reasoning as to why this world is in the crap it is in. Disgusting.

Rider 12-28-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 3950089)
Wow what's with this crazy stalker stuff! :eek:

What crazy stalker stuff, you post insane amounts of crazy crap everywhere. You can't avoid it. You are hear, E6, The Flaming Lips boards. Constantly pimping your band that no one gives a shit about, really you are on an endless number of boards begging people to pay attention to you and how many people donated to your kickstarter? You do remasters, band videos, have some massive Machina tracklist that you have been working on for a decade. You are an insane individual who spends way to much time online.

I'm sure there are grandmothers in Indiana who posts on a knitting forum who are sick of you.

Oh and non\e of this bothers him but he posted how many replies to it? Fucking retard.

Rider 12-28-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. (Post 3950092)
Now I haven't heard these nmh tapes of which you speak but in SNL's defense, isn't it entirely possible that the song did suck? Not everything mangum touches turns to gold; maybe you liked them simply because they were mangum?

They sounded like shit the point is if SNL knew who they were do you think he would have made fun of them?

Kahlo 12-28-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950111)
You are hear... Fucking retard.

I think you mean 'here'.

GrammarNazitillIdie

Rider 12-28-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo (Post 3950118)
I think you mean 'here'.

GrammarNazitillIdie

Yep.

soniclovenoize 12-28-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950111)
What crazy stalker stuff, you post insane amounts of crazy crap everywhere. You can't avoid it. You are hear, E6, The Flaming Lips boards. Constantly pimping your band that no one gives a shit about, really you are on an endless number of boards begging people to pay attention to you and how many people donated to your kickstarter? You do remasters, band videos, have some massive Machina tracklist that you have been working on for a decade. You are an insane individual who spends way to much time online.

I'm sure there are grandmothers in Indiana who posts on a knitting forum who are sick of you.

Oh and non\e of this bothers him but he posted how many replies to it? Fucking retard.

Oh shit, are you Nothing/Everything? Nice!

Fuck what happened to you man, you used to be cool. :(

Rider 12-28-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 3950121)
Oh shit, are you Nothing/Everything? Nice!

Fuck what happened to you man, you used to be cool. :(

Is this some attempt at humor?

Rider 12-28-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

finally got back to working on the new album after a pretty turbulent autumn. we’d all been so busy—ben was sick, mason and i playing in awkward bodies and sean playing in both under the old sky and 5am blue—and then i just moved, so that was of course a top priority. i was glad to just sit back and and try to finish off the songs we started this summer.
as luck would have it, i got back my old tascam 414 4-track that i had recorded endless fields of poppy on back between 2004-2006. for some reason, it had a different sound than the other 4-tracks had, especially the yamaha i used to record some miscellaneous tracks in 2010 and even my larger tascam 424 mki which i recorded echoes from the ultraviolet fuzz on. hard to describe but it is a happier 4-track. very warm and friendly. it soudns like it loves me, rather than the 424 who simply tolerated me and the yamaha who secretly loathed me. i recorded a demo for under the old sky a few weeks ago on my 414 and she’s still got the magic. this will be the center of recording for the new curiously strong peppermints album, placed in the basement of my new house, which will be our ramshackle as-yet-unnamed recording studio. if you have a good name for the studio, let us know!
mason came over to lay some things down… we start by putting some finishing touches on “how to navigate a space ship through a black hole”, which was really things we forgot to track this summer. mason throws on his backing vocals and then we add a guitar overdub, utilizing my beloved tascam’s overdriven fuzz sound (that is how we got the fuzz bass on endless fields of poppy, this 4-track) to get a mean guitar tone that will be hard to replicate. love it. and now this song is done. spend a while mixing it, which is what i have been slowly doing over the last few months—tweeking this mix every week. i think i’ve found the final one. it’s labeled “mix 10” but in reality it’s more like mix 27. so everything was pretty much alreday balanced in the mix before we even added those final two elements.
of all my songs, i think i hold this one dearest to my heart. it literally is about wishing your own destruction because your life is so inescapably miserable, and in the case of this song, a death by singularity: by crashing dead center into a black hole. not only are you destroyed, but you could escape your present time due to the effects of time dilation as you approach the event horizon of a black hole. time itself is warped, and you can escape from your life—and then be stretched into infinitely long spaghetti of course. “hammered by the gravity of a hundred-million suns’ energy / no more past and no more present / i don’t have to run / i am free” i really truly meant it, and this song needs to be right, it needs to be perfect.
so then we add some dreamy autoharps to “boy with wings’ which is otherwise very sparse at this point. we decide to scrap the harpsichords and pink floydian organs we tracked this summer. wait, the autoharp is out of tune to the recording? i take a 20-minute break while mason sits and tunes an autoharp into standard. two takes later we like the autoharp direction, but maybe we can retrack a tighter performance next week, giving mason a chance to actually learn to play this song, he hadn’t played in 6 months, on a zither. i throw on a scratch vocal because, well, i never actually put one on it yet. maybe that will help?
i then realize that on “how to navigate” sean had played the drum pattern i heard in my head for another new song “formaldehyde” so i track down the master 4-track tape of the drum tracks, cue up one of the takes we did not use, slow down the tape and reverse it and create a drum loop. it takes some time to get it right, to learn the ride should be the timekeeper and not the monster backwards snare hits or cymbal crashes. finally i find the right placement to create this drumloop that would be the backbone of the verse sections. we performed this song acoustically two months ago with mason playing a droning air organ and jeannette a droning clarinet, and it had a great feel—this is the direction “formaldehyde” should go. i overdub a scratch guitar part to the backwards drumloop as a placeholder and then add the droning air organ. I then track a scratch vocal of the verse verse for a placeholder for the other musicians who will layer this thing eventually. this is the basics of the verses, and we’ll have to record the choruses with sean and ben at a later date and just piece the song together. fun!
This is posted by a guy who records music in the basement with his friends and is lucky if 10 people take pity on him and buy these albums.

reprise85 12-28-2012 10:28 PM

sounds like a normal dude to me.

smashingjj 12-29-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 3950121)
Oh shit, are you Nothing/Everything? Nice!

Fuck what happened to you man, you used to be cool. :(

Pretty sure he is not.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 3950138)
This is posted by a guy who records music in the basement with his friends and is lucky if 10 people take pity on him and buy these albums.

what does this have got to do with anything. Who the fuck cares what anyone chooses to record for whatever small audience.

meangreensp 12-29-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashingjj (Post 3950243)
Pretty sure he is not.


what does this have got to do with anything. Who the fuck cares what anyone chooses to record for whatever small audience.

Exactly. What an insecure piece of shit. Typical Netphoria, losing an argument so you bring up something irrelevant and make fun of them for it. This place is like high school, except worse.


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