The excuse of why living in filth is Ok is that vixnix is just carazzzzyyyyyyyy.

I always put the lid down.

vivnix probably just had a traumatic experience where she got sick from poop germs on her toothbrush or something

So you'd probably raise your kids to leave the lid up and walk barefoot into town.

yeah and they'd probably get on everyone's nerves.

I'd raise them to be critical thinkers

and definitely not germaphobes

How is there a connection between critical thinking and putting the lid down. My kids can think critically and minimize the spread of germs. My kids aren't germphobes, that's just me. And yeah I've had some bad gastro bugs from food joints that were not terribly clean and after having a few v&d bugs with my kids it isn't something I'm interested in having again. I have enough washing and cleaning to do as it is. You're not teaching your kids to think critically if all you're doing is reacting against the current trend of germphobia. You're just teaching them to be reactionary. There's a balance to be had where you don't get too anxious when you look outside and see them eating dirt, but at the same time, lower the lid before you flush after defecating in the family toilet. Ugh. I mean gross. Just lower the lid. How does that not make sense to you.

There isn't anything to think critically about the fact that shit can get you sick. This is insane, just put the lid down after you lift it up.

fountains of jizz.

yeah, and dont fart naked.

also, wear goggles while taking a shit.

i flush right when i feel it exit and then once when i'm done and after i've looked at my handiwork.

reactionary? I was talking about not accepting idiotic rules of decorum like "you must put the seat down for ladies" without thinking it through. you're pretty defensive though


I'm am surprised at the number of seat-down-all-the-time people here, I don't think I have ever been to someone's house where all the toilet seats are always kept down. I'm just questioning the more that dictates that males must put the seat down for females.

I don't really buy that flushing the toilet presents a serious risk of transferring enough germs into your body to make you sick though, at least not any more than going in the ocean, using a public bathroom, shaking hands with people, or touching doorknobs.

I mean if you take a shit, hasn't the force of your feces entering the water already forced a ton of particles from the toilet water and waste therein all over the part of your backside planted on the bowl? I guess I shouldn't even go here, because last time I argued with Netphoria about hygiene, there were some people legitimately asserting that showering is necessary after you defecate.

You also said that you didn't know why toilets had lids and acted like I only lowered it and encouraged my kids to lower it because I'm not a critical thinker and I'm a germphobe.

As for lowering the seat, it's a seat. It has no business being in a position where people can't sir on it. If you put it there so that you can pee standing up...because you're not good enough at peeing standing up to stop yourself from peeing on the seat, it's a courtesy to others who use the seat as a seat, to return said seat to a position where it may be used...as a seat. Why don't guys just stop with this ridiculous messy peeing standing up ridiculousness and sit down like normal people.

It's not only because of germs. A bathroom with a closed toilet looks better. Simple as that.

you're all a bunch of conservatives

It's polite

why is it polite

because they feel entitled to something.

I wouldn't call it conservative to have decent manners and aesthetic and hygienic standards.

I fantasize about a massive, pristine convenience. Brilliant gold taps, virginal white marble, a seat carved from ebony, a cistern full of Chanel Number 5, and a flunky handing me pieces of raw silk toilet roll. But under the circumstances I'll settle for anywhere.

because you're preventing anyone from falling in

Why don't you just check if it's up or down?

because shes on dmt and heroin and cant tell.

lol

I know this isn't a really good analogy ILP, but that's kind of like walking into a closed door and whining that you expected a man to hold it open for you

I guess it always surprises me how uptight people are about decorum when it comes to hygiene or anything to do with a bathroom, even when it doesn't really make so much sense. I'm getting a lot of "it's polite." "but why?" "it's just polite why can't you do it"

Like when we had that awful thread about showering everyday and the clean brigade came out in force against me even though what I said was actually correct

Just hit her and show her who's the boss.

next redbreegull will discuss the antiquated and superfluous practice of wiping with toilet paper.