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redbreegull 11-25-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by meangreensp (Post 3934004)
It was an example. I never followed up on it. But science is ever changing. Religion is based on faith, so despite evidence they insist it's just a way to test their religion. There's nothing wrong with what he said.

Again, science is not changing, it is a method if investigation. You sound like one of those people who is like EVOLUTION IS NOT FACT ITS JUST A THEORY. Science seeks to be descriptive, and it acknowledges that new information changes our understanding of shit. That's like the fucking point of the scientific method and peer criticism and shit. It doesn't seek to paint an objective picture of the universe. Religion on the other hand, is prescriptive. It tells you exactly what the universe is like in objective terms.

I don't know what the fuck makes you think religion doesn't change though. Christians in 2012 are absolutely nothing like Jesus' followers at the time of his death. Within a few decades of the crucifixion, there were at least dozens if not hundreds of different religious views on Jesus and none of them got along with each other. Religion changes all the time to accommodate the changing world. Catholicism is a religion with feudal cultural values. Protestantism is a religion with capitalist cultural values.

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Originally Posted by Order 66 (Post 3934689)
obama also didnt know if the world was created in 7 days?

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Originally Posted by Future Boy (Post 3934693)
apparently

The world was created in six days

Future Boy 11-25-2012 06:13 PM

are you a scientist?

redbreegull 11-25-2012 06:53 PM

just someone who paid enough attention in school to know that science does not = things we accept as objective facts about the universe

pavementtune 11-25-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 3935006)
Religion changes all the time to accommodate the changing world. Catholicism is a religion with feudal cultural values. Protestantism is a religion with capitalist cultural values.

:erm:

redbreegull 11-25-2012 09:19 PM

Catholicism – hierarchical religious structure where submission to and acceptance of authority are central tenets. Very rigid structure of power where the tiny elite minority have sway over the rest of the population, and this is morally good.

Protestantism – anyone can walk the correct path to God if he works hard. The individual and the individual's interpretation of religion and the world is important. You don't need superiors to tell you how shit is and what to do, all you need to do is read the Bible and figure it out yourself. Monetary gain is morally good

MyOneAndOnly 11-25-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 3935017)
just someone who paid enough attention in school to know that science does not = things we accept as objective facts about the universe

LOL

MyOneAndOnly 11-25-2012 09:20 PM

RBG is a one boarder comedy showcase

redbreegull 11-25-2012 09:30 PM

what I said is correct. Science is not some body of facts we accept as a map of the universe's workings. It's a method of investigation. Only people who don't understand science or scientific evidence think that it's some sort of problem that "science changes." It's a positive thing that science allows for new conclusions when new information comes to light. Go ask a fucking scientist if you want this is high school shit.

h0w can we trust sienz wen it dosnt stay the saim!??!!?!

that's some fucking philistine creationist horseshit

duovamp 11-25-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Future Boy (Post 3934692)
Barack Obama: I’m trying to remember if we’ve had this conversation. What I’ve said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it — it may not be 24-hour days. And that’s what I believe. I know there’s always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don’t, and that I think is a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I’m a part. You know, my belief is that the story the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live, that that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible? That, you know, I don’t presume to know.



dear repubs, ^ thats how you answer that question. if you absolutely must point out that you are not a scientist at the very least resist the urge to say it twice.

Robble.

Pretty fucking different from Rubio's answer.

pavementtune 11-25-2012 10:05 PM

"Protestantism is a religion with capitalist cultural values". ©rbg
You obviously don't understand at least 5 terms in your own sentence.

redbreegull 11-25-2012 10:54 PM

does that mean you don't like the idea of this so you are going to tell me I am wrong without actually explaining why whatsoever?

Future Boy 11-26-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3935093)
Robble.

Pretty fucking different from Rubio's answer.

yeah its like night and day

MyOneAndOnly 11-26-2012 06:06 PM

I like RBG threads a lot better when he posts pics of his girlfriend

redbreegull 11-26-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 3935298)
I like RBG threads a lot better when he posts pics of his girlfriend

she certainly is a babe. if only you knew how smart she is, you would probably jizz your pants with envy

Eulogy 11-27-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 3935108)
"Protestantism is a religion with capitalist cultural values". ©rbg
You obviously don't understand at least 5 terms in your own sentence.

Uhhh isn't this widely accepted as true?

redbreegull 11-27-2012 04:11 PM

It seems pretty fucking obvious. I'm not exactly the first person in history to suggest that economic underpinnings control the rest of society and culture

pavementtune 11-27-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3935609)
Uhhh isn't this widely accepted as true?

Is it? Maybe in America, not in Europe. The Calvin vs. Weber debate among Protestants is very much alive.

redbreegull 11-27-2012 08:50 PM

I'm not really sure you understand what I said, I don't know how it is possible to argue that Protestantism, humanism/the Renaissance, and whole bunch of other contemporary phenomena were not influenced by, if not literally caused by the transformation from feudalism to market economies

pavementtune 11-27-2012 09:06 PM

I don't argue that. I wonder how you can characterize/reduce/generalize today's Protestantism as a religion with capitalist values.

redbreegull 11-27-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 3935803)
I don't argue that. I wonder how you can characterize/reduce/generalize today's Protestantism as a religion with capitalist values.

because all of Western society is dominated by capitalist values? wtf?

duovamp 11-30-2012 04:20 PM

Fuckin' Pat Robertson.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ism/?hpt=hp_c2

Fuckin'. Pat. Fuckin'. Robertson.

Order 66 11-30-2012 05:53 PM

i keep reading the thread title as ruffio in president
ruffio... :(

duovamp 11-30-2012 06:21 PM

Poll: Who would be a better President Rufio, the band or the character?


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