In this thread Romney loses to Obama
 

Campaign over...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...onvention.html


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...15585955_n.jpg

Seriously, though....

Romney could lead by huge margins in every solid red state in the country, and even in total nationally, going into November. But without solid leads in the handful of swing states, Like Ohio, Florida, etc... he has little chance of winning.

electoral college

i really didn't think we would see a more poorly managed campaign than mccain's maybe ever. and he was even starting with a pretty steep uphill battle.

this was romney's to lose and he is shitting it all away in rather stunning fashion. there's still plenty of time, but the ineptitude at this point is undeniable. and a lot will have to change, i think.

a great debate for him would go a long way, but i don't think i see that happening either.

He's shown in the past that he can be a good candidate, but I think he's seriously hamstrung by his own party.

He has on the one hand religious conservatives who want him to get in front of the cameras every day and promise to take away birth control. Then he has an angry America First contingent that wants all brown skin off the continent. Then he has people like Adelson and the Kochs who are pushing for abolition of programs the middle class relies on. i haven't even mentioned the "let's start a war with iran" Neocons... who are still there ready to cause trouble.

The agendas of those factions within the republican party scare the shit out of a lot of "independents" and swing voters.

On top of that fiscally conservative republicans seem to have no real power any longer in their own party. There used to be a block of rational, serious leaders in the GOP who kept it grounded... People like Mitt's father.

today i was volunteering at a food pantry and overheard a lone sane man arguing with a group of clients that romney being president would hurt people like them who needed assistance

i just dont understand how people vote against their own interests so readily

even now, just a few weeks from election day, the man still cannot stop flip-flopping.

imma keep parts of obamacare yall

Daily Kos/SEIU poll of "likely" voters has Obama up by 6... (50 - 44) with 6% undecided...


http://elections.dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2012/8/23

yes, it's a Progressive blog, but they've done a good job over the past 5 yrs of trying to get accurate polling for national elections.

Of interest is that obama is getting nearly 50% or more than 50% among all income groups... and 19% of African Americans are choosing Romney..

sometimes what's important to people isn't what you think is important to them.

i can say i was here to see it

it's a comically mismanaged campaign but alot if not most of the misfortune reflects the quality of the candidate. the most important election of a lifetime and your answer to the opponent is... mormon mr.rogers meets thurston howell III? i dont see how they can pimp this guy with a straight face

Pretty sure Trump even said (or tweeted) months ago that Mitt needs a better team around him, especially if he wants to compete with Barack.

If Obama is reelected he will become the progressive Ronald Reagan. Not just in that he'll be held up as an example of a "winner" for the next generation or more of democrats. But also in that he makes a compelling and effective counter argument to the conservative call for "smaller government".

it's something that Bill Clinton wasn't really able to do.

It would be interesting to know just WTF Romney's advisors tell him to say everyday. He goes on one news channel and says "all of Obamacare needs to be repealed". And then goes on another network and lists all the good pieces of Obamacare that he'd keep.

Nah, the progressive Ronald already exists, and he already did his two terms and he may have secured a victory for Barack after his speech at the DNC.

i couldnt picture obama riding a raptor

thats how republicans remember the 80s

they should make that a lifesize statue outside the Creation Museum in Ohio

scotty what are you talking about

Clinton is the liberal Reagan except that instead of fucking us over with ideological bullshit, he was pretty moderate and sailed us mostly through smooth waters

someone i know just posted this to facebook

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...28478992_n.jpg

i cant even tell where to start with that one

why is obama so weak on terror

omg

i don't dislike all muslims. took islamic humanities in college and very much enjoyed the course. i think obama's refusal to meet with netanyahu is another signal of something bad to come.

i just said
that's fine but that's not what that picture is saying. that picture is saying obama supports terrorism and is a traitor. and if you dont believe that then i dont understand why you'd repost it. there are plenty of things to be critical about, however when you share stuff like that it is an insult to muslims (muslim-americans or other nationalities) because it is calling them all terrorists and it is so just beyond the pale of what should be off limits for campaigning because no matter what you believe about obama or romney, no one should be called a traitor because that's fucking ridiculous. and that quote is ridiculously out of context but the whole thing is just fucked up so i dont know where to start


i'm not even really political but that is just so fucked up i mean what the hell

Do you think Obama will end up being more effective than Clinton if reelected?

i'm kinda wtf on him not meeting with netanyahu. thought about making a thread about it but i don't like the circles posters go into when they start debating about isreal

anyway i don't see why they don't meet for optics at least

They need a better reason than busy schedule.

to play devil's advocate a president's schedule is very un-malleable and everything has to be planned months in advance (especially in an election year i'd guess). and isreal and US are in constant contact so its questionable how much more would really get accomplished with the two physically in a room together

imo they should put handsome joe in a room with netanyahu with a pack of keystone tallboys

scratch that put joe with supreme leader whatshisface. with a 24 pack of whippets

Among some conservatives Reagan wasn't nicknamed 'Red Ronnie' for nothing...

Clinton sailed nothing. What y'all will come to understand is that the fiat paper printing of the Fed Reserve since Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard has ultimately created this massive near Quadrillion dollar black hole of debt. Over the decades the central banks would choose certain sectors and pump and dump (tech, real estate, never-ending war machine)...and here we are up shit Keynesian creek river without a paddle, boat,.


And if your life preserver is the government...your screwed.


Which brings me to the other misguided naive' who is so brainwashed he says useful idiot stuff like this:



thanks johnnybrownshirt (new name 4U)...


its o.k. It's not by accident your intellectually impotent, so there's hope for deprogramming yet.


seriously though..."smaller government", "big government"...semantics. Mathematics holds that a government job CANNOT be created at a tax-surplus. While denigrating those in the private sector who create the revenue, Obama's class envy-war rhetoric can only assume he wishes to wither away the nation for the sake of the government.

I've found that threads flow a lot better when you just skip over his bullshit ^

out of curiosity, why do you think it is? You usually have some of the most jaundiced views of Obama around here, so do you think he's actually trying to snub israel or what

hrmph

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPol...aspx?id=284750

fuck netanyahu, guy is a right wing nut

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i just think it leaves an open line of attack, as legit as it may be. dont think its an intentional snub, they probably just see no benefit from it.

fucking zionism is the worst. and anti-zionism is not the same fucking thing as anti semitism, though right-wing jew neocons would have you believe that

the sky falls, abortions are now illegal, everything changes radically