Christians bring the lols yet again
 

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ME
you said you dont believe in organized religion - what is your belief system then
ps i'm enjoying finally getting to chat a bit

GIRL:
Jesus
Laugh all you want
But its what I believe

ME
lol you realize that's organized religion

GIRL
Is it?
Or is organized religion attending mass?

ME
yes absolutely

GIRL
Because Im pretty sure I was raised catholic so I know what organized religion is

ME
you dont believe in going to church
christianity is definitely organized religion though

GIRL
Look
Heres whats up
One of my best friends is an athiest
So quite frankly, if the fact that I believe in Jesus is an issue for you- I dont care
I dont attend mass. I dont need to. I dont tithe. I dont do anything in that sense.
But I have had a pretty serious experience that makes me believe in what I believe

ME
what happened?

GIRL
If Im wrong, and when I die I become dirt- or I end up on the bank of some serious alien planet- then I will willfully state Im wrong
But until then Im one lucky bitch

ME
you can believe what you want but im not afraid to voice my own opinion

GIRL
Totally fine

ME
i think it's a little selfish and ignorant to think that our planet was exclusively created by someone and that we are special

GIRL
Ignorant to who? Aliens?
But to be fair
I do believe that there is life outside our planet
Created by God
So, call me a crazy redneck hick

ME
you're cherry picking what you want to believe then
because the bible doesn't say that
i was confirmed methodist by the way.

GIRL
Im not cherry picking
Because I dont answer the a pastor, priest, or congregation
Or you

ME
but if you believe in jesus, why would you not take his word?
jesus is mentioned in the bible. that's the only reason you heard of him

GIRL
LOL
Okay

ME
which also includes women not being able to have equal rights, and gays being evil creatures meant to be stoned and ridiculed

GIRL
The old testament, yes.
But if I believed soley in the old testament, wouldnt I be Jewish?

ME
fair point

GIRL
Gracias

ME
but this jesus thing... there is a really important fact you must know

GIRL
Oh? Tell me.
?

ME
do you have netflix?

GIRL
Yes
Just tell me?

ME
the entire story of christ
down to the details
was told in egyptian religion hundreds of years before
watch this short clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9WM...=results_video

GIRL
Hi. Ive seen it

ME
in fact if you're open minded that entire documentary is a good watch
i like how he comments on all religions and not just christianity

GIRL
Do you want to know the best part?

ME
what

GIRL
Im not asking you to change your mind
So you attacking what I believe in pointless
Is*

ME
i didnt attack anything i'm just having a logical discussion

GIRL
So "logical" to you is attacking what I believe?
I dont care

ME
i didnt attack it, i expressed my beliefs
why can you express yours and i can't mine

GIRL
I dont even know why were about to fight about this
But heres what I struggle with
Nevermind

ME
no, go ahead

GIRL
This is damn pointless
I dont want ti
*To
IVe had this fight and discussion with my best friends over and over again
It solves nothing

ME
i wont make fun of you, i enjoy having deep conversations like this

GIRL
Thats the same reason I refuse to discuss politics

ME
now i'm curious lol

GIRL
I just cannot.
It makes me so fucking furious and these people that are "open minded" about "everything" are so quick to shoot down other peoples believes
beliefs*
Im not out on the streets with picket fences calling everyone sinners.
Im in the crowds of the gay parade in Atlanta SUPPORTING my best friends

ME
thats the whole point of being agnostic - you admit that there is no possible way for us humans to explain the creation of the universe, higher powers, etc - it's beyond us and its pointless to try to understand or explain it. you'd have to have logical evidence or reasons to make a case for god, and that's tough to do

ME
that's nice of you to support your friends

GIRL
Have you seen, physically seen, or been to...Mars, Venus, anything?
Have YOU PHYISCALLY seen it

ME
yes, we have

GIRL
NO
You

ME
actually yes you can see those planets with a telescope

GIRL
Physically
IN anything other than pictures and telescopes
So youve enever been there right?

ME
we have landed rovers on them and returned elements that do not exist on earth

GIRL
*Never

GIRL
Have you landed those rovers?
Seen those elements?

ME
no but i'm not claiming that mars created the earth and sends people to hell for touching their privates together before marriage

GIRL
See what Im talking about?
You are so quick to jump to that ridiculous fucking mars ordeal when Im simply asking you questions

ME
i have not done those things but its not the same thing

GIRL
Its not?

ME
absolutely not

GIRL
Youre right
Im so sorry.

ME
believe in god, that's fine and all, but you have to do it purely on faith. that's the caveat you have to accept

GIRLS
I forget youve been to Mars and explored all the galaxies and have proof that were not in the Truman show and your not being feed conspiracies and bullshit
You too place your faith in science
and Im not taking a huge shit on that

ME
are you saying that scientists are devoting their entire lives to misleading the general public
lol

GIRL
So why dont you leave me the fuck alone until youve been to Mars?

ME
that's quite the leap

GIRL
And so is meeting Jesus
But ya know, you win some you lose some

ME
the difference is]
science is an exploratory field
religion promotes hate and fear
its a destructive force

GIRL
RELIGION
NOT SPIRITUALITY
fuck

ME
true
there are a lot of hateful teachings in the bible though
a lot of good stuff too

GIRL
I cannot express to you how fucking irritated I am. My best friend and I just had this conversation last weekend.

ME
christian theology has a solid moral foundation for sure

GIRL
And all Im saying, is that until you have physically stepped foot on Mars or any planet/ rock/ moon aside from Earth, fuck off about my faith
K thankssss
Cuz here I am saying, youre right I might be wrong
But there you are saying, no youre COIMPLETELY WRONG

ME
no you're not. by being christian youre saying jesus is the only way
i'm saying that we cannot possibly know the truth
and anyone could be right, but its foolish to assume any one is right

GIRL
So who is more ignorant?

ME
i am ignorant of the truth, absolutely
that's the whole point

GIRL
Then youre fucking foolish

ME
how can i know the truth?

GIRL
Agreed

ME
how did you come to be a christian?

GIRL
Yet you place your belifs in certain things
Do you not?

ME
not really
i believe in moral relativity

GIRL
A believe.
There are some that do not.
Belief*
Like seriously

ME
the only thing i can believe in is myself because that's all i know for sure. and maybe another person if i'm really close to them

GIRL
And reality is all about perception
You have no idea that you arent dreaming, or not yet born, or sitting in the Matrix

ME
yup

GIRL
So while you chose to believe in this, I chose to believe in that
And Im not hurting anyone, and Ive made some pretty damn good points- so that ends this discussion

ME
yet you choose to accept a belief passed down to you very specifically by your circumstancial environment
instead of accepting that fact

GIRL
Oh? You know my parents? What I was raised in? How I was raised?
And how did you come to know science?

ME
i know that if someone didnt tell you about jesus you wouldn't know he ever existed

GIRL
Were you born with that knowledge or was it taught to you?
And if someone didnt tell you about science you wouldnt know it ever existeted
GET SERIOUS

ME
im not claiming to know anything about science

GIRL
Like fucking listen to yourself
But what you were taught, you know about
I just cant do it
Absolutely, cannot

ME
how come everyone on the planet agrees on science
but there are 100's of different religions
no, thousands

GIRL
Does everyone agree on science?

ME
yup

GIRL
Every, single scientist believes the exact same thing?

ME
yup, its called a law

ME
science is international

GIRL
Exactly the same way?

ME
for instance, gravity
or, measurement systems
or, the numerous nations that have placed a man in space

GIRL
Oh? Is that why measurment systems are the same internationally?

ME
none of them disagree about science, unless they are blinded by religion
well, most of them are, and there are conversions between units

GIRL
Or do we not have pesos, dollars ....
HAHA

ME
that's not science
that's economics

GIRL
K


GIRL
If its not science then why would you make the example that everyone thinks the same, for example, measurment systems?

ME
what about this one - if you were born in india, and were raised hindu until you were 23
what are the chances that you go to hell for not believing in jesus?
i meant physical measurement not monetary
again you are entitled to your beliefs and thats cool that you are passionate about them, but this argument doesn't work for religion. its a faith based paradigm

GIRL
K

GIRL
OH shit....another difference between humans.. language......
Why dont we all speak it the same?
Ha. BYE!

Can someone organize a launch to Mars, STAT?

it's more sad than funny

you got head didn't you?

tbch she has good points.

who gives a fuck we're all along for the ride. if something gives you meaning (or takes away meaning) embrace it.

the atheist/agnostic argument loses when at war with xtianity because, to them, they gain something, but to us, everyone loses.

yeah except the part where she says science isnt real

and when she basically expresses an agnostic ethos and doesn't realize it

christians dont gain anything, they simply limit the possibilities by living in fear and servitude

but if you're trying to change her mind you are no different then she is.

missionaries are stupid.

tha'ts not what xtians belive, however

RULES CAN SET YOU FREE

(that's not a religious creed)

yeah i mean i'm personally a wee bit jealous that some people can find comfort in that and i never will

even though it's bullshit, at least she's not anti-gay and a horrible person so if it helps her sleep at night who really cares, she's not hurting anyone.

some of the best people i've met are christians who realize their religion is fucked up in a lot of regards but practice the good things

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This part is the best.

GIRL
Oh? Is that why measurment systems are the same internationally?

that's just it though - the good things aren't provincial to xtianity

oh u think ur all that?

It's hurting God that one of his creations is really, really dumb.

FOR THE RECORD I'LL BE TAKING THE SIDE OF THE GIRL JUST TO ANTOGONIZE PFRRBB YOU SMARMY ASSHAT

I think it's really sad how hostile some people can get when they're "proven wrong" or made to realize the error in their ways.

so you think your all that b/c you know how many minerals r on mars

Instead of just admitting her inconsistencies she starts flailing her arms around like a crazy person.

am i supposed to be laughing at one more than the other

I've never seen Obama so I don't think America really has anything to fear.

She was doing a good job of saying NO GO AWAY BECAUZE FAITH (an untouchable stance) until and

You should have asked her if she takes medicine, goes to the doctor, drives a car, watches tv, uses electricity...

it would be very very hot to you if in C

*_* OMG SO CLEAR @_@

Phew, good thing our scientists got the temperature measurement right.

pretty sure she was being sarcastic

also please move this political thread to the politics forum mods thank you

she is pretty dumb yeah

Pretty sure her arms were flailing around when she said that.

wait, scientists agree?

still it would have been fun to take her to the science museum and then she takes you to the creationist museum sounds like fun dates

POTENTIAL FOR HOT SEX DOWN THE ROAD NULLIFIED

Well she just told me to watch out because she's a biter

If I fuck this cunt I'll get in a donkey punch for you Henry

I'm not believing in this anymore. Religion is moronic... just like I always though it was. I refuse to conform to this emo whinefest. Rawr... you should all get Myspace instead. Ill still check yours though because your suffering amuses me.

If at any, I'd laugh at dogfighter.