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MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 3866652)
indeed:

Quote:

Sorry but I had to pull this listing ... Even though I obtained this item
legitimately I didnt realize that Billy Corgan would have a problem with
the selling of it. I dont want to upset him. I didnt realize it would be
such a big deal.

was this quote up on the ebay auction?

I know someone who spoke with her the other day and she told him that she was not contacted by anyone from from SP.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 08:39 AM

nah, i got that as a message on ebay.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 08:40 AM

maybe she heard about the billy tweets and got scared. dunno.

whywontyoulistn 06-04-2012 08:43 AM

Or maybe Billy sent his flying montes.

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 08:46 AM

she had two different Q101 items up for auction. the other was a Perfect Circle item. Both got pulled down...

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 09:18 AM

from sp.com:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS
I did inform the seller of Billy's tweet and mentioned it would be in their best interest to take it down.

But I don't believe Billy would do anything presumptive.


MonteLDS 06-04-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 3866734)
what an asshole. filing a suit knowing the person can't afford to defend themselves so he gets what he wants by default. there is no way he'd win that suit if it actually went to court.

it might be true that he wouldn't win. but the issue is still the same that it would be a pain in the butt even to respond.

but just for a moment lets just say that the fact she knows about Billy's displeased is really why she didn't end up selling it.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 09:48 AM

sure, why don't you put it that way. that sounds really good.

you took the initiative to contact the seller - nobody asked you to - and threatened her to take it down. and then she did. how many billy points do you hope you won now?

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 09:50 AM

good thing that billy has loyal fans like you to look after him. otherwise this would have ended in tears. (or for you, monty: would of end in tears.)

DeadOpera 06-04-2012 10:01 AM

way to go monte... you can't afford to buy it so you make it so no one else can too.

MonteLDS 06-04-2012 10:17 AM

the seller didn't reply to my message, and the item wasn't canceled until 24+ hours after I sent it. So blame me if you will but it was the seller choice to cancel it, no one else.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866906)
So blame me if you will

will do.

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866906)
the seller didn't reply to my message, and the item wasn't canceled until 24+ hours after I sent it. So blame me if you will but it was the seller choice to cancel it, no one else.

:nooooo:

why bother doing that, Monte? despite bill's tweets I seriously doubt he'd pursue legal action. What grounds did he have? She owns the discs. Once the thing was sold (which would have been in a matter of days or hours) there would have been nothing he could have done anyway, since she probably wouldn't have had possession of it anylonger. If he really cared about stopping people from selling the few copies of Machina II, he'd send his lawyers after the people who own the copies, or he'd go buy them privately to take them out of circulation... but he hasn't done any of that. It's just billy tweeting w/o thinking about it.

why get involved in it at all? you and I both know people what were bidding on it. now they're SOL

MonteLDS 06-04-2012 11:00 AM

Billy would of sued.

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 11:16 AM

http://unknownatheist.com/wp-content...1218936424.jpg

DeadOpera 06-04-2012 11:25 AM

wow

teh b0lly!!1 06-04-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866917)
Billy would of sued.

When you need to fuck up a four word sentence - choose Monty.

DeadOpera 06-04-2012 11:31 AM

you think he would sue me for selling the moon demo tape?

MonteLDS 06-04-2012 11:33 AM

I am happy to see I have pissed so many of you people off. job completed.

whywontyoulistn 06-04-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866928)
I am happy to see I have pissed so many of you people off. job completed.

:erm:

DeadOpera 06-04-2012 11:53 AM

Yeah, we are so pissed off at you monte. Your poor spelling and grammar have gotten to us all. Good job!

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 12:05 PM

fuck you in the ear, monty. you stupid cunt. i really hope you die. die in a fire. or however. as long as it's slowly and cruel and painful. you fucking worthless piece of shit. DIE, MOTHERFUCKER! (not german.)

please pray for my soul, or you're a bad christian. and your lds god won't allow you entrance to the paradise where people of all races pet lions. DO IT NOW!

MonteLDS 06-04-2012 12:15 PM

This message is hidden because Cool As Ice Cream is on your ignore list.

oh the anger I must be making this user feel.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 12:18 PM

i bet you read that.

either way, those are the feelings i'm sending out. like a boss. you'll get hit soon enough by my negative waves. on your knees and pray!

whywontyoulistn 06-04-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 3866939)
fuck you in the ear, monty. you stupid cunt. i really hope you die. die in a fire. or however. as long as it's slowly and cruel and painful. you fucking worthless piece of shit. DIE, MOTHERFUCKER! (not german.)

please pray for my soul, or you're a bad christian. and your lds god won't allow you entrance to the paradise where people of all races pet lions. DO IT NOW!

:erm:

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 12:19 PM

what's your problem?

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 12:28 PM

sooooo, billy decides to press 25 copies of machina II, pass them out and tell people to burn them and distrubute copies online....

and 12 years later he's going to sue someone for owning one of the copies..?

I don't think so

/clusterfuck

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 12:29 PM

I hope someone contacts her privately and she's able to sell it.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 12:32 PM

yeah, that's the whole thing: "we have the rights!"
i doubt they have a lot of rights left after encouraging everyone to spread this online.

i don't really care about the auction though.

but i'm quite interested if this woman's story is true. and if not, what really happened. and if possible, i'd also like to know how this real copy is supposed to look. but i guess it's better not to post too many details online, just in case another mystery copy pops up.

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 12:35 PM

I know someone who owns one of the Machina II Virgin promo copies and showed it to billy last year.

Billy didn't sue him. The sky didn't fall. Nobody was hurt.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-04-2012 12:37 PM

i also know that person. i sold him two cds of the set. (i don't think he collected a complete set yet.)

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 12:47 PM

edit...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 3866963)
i also know that person. i sold him two cds of the set. (i don't think he collected a complete set yet.)

I think he has the whole set

I'd like to look at them.. but I don't want to get sued

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 12:48 PM

del

RenewRevive 06-04-2012 12:50 PM

good grief Monte. you on billy's payroll now?

Rumpkin 06-04-2012 01:50 PM

billy ain't gonna fuck ya.

reprise85 06-04-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866897)
it might be true that he wouldn't win. but the issue is still the same that it would be a pain in the butt even to respond.

right. and this is exactly why he's an asshole. he's strong arming this woman just because he can. why the hell does he care, let the woman make 50k and put a down payment on a house or something. it's already not in the original owner's possession.

MyOneAndOnly 06-04-2012 01:55 PM

he didn't strong arm her. Monte did it for him.

reprise85 06-04-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866906)
the seller didn't reply to my message, and the item wasn't canceled until 24+ hours after I sent it. So blame me if you will but it was the seller choice to cancel it, no one else.

wow, this is an extremely bad justification. you already mentioned why she doesn't have a choice (can't afford a lawsuit). sure, she could in theory wait for the lawsuit and spend her savings and take out loans and etc for this, but could she really? no way. she had no other responsible choice. YOU SUCK MONTE

MonteLDS 06-04-2012 02:11 PM

I never made mention of a lawsuit. I just let them know about the tweet and it might be a good idea to take it down.

reprise85 06-04-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteLDS (Post 3866723)
lets just say he submitted a lawsuit. that would be a lot trouble to deal with for the seller that they would likely not want to face.

backtracking much? whether you mentioned it or not she probably knew it was in the works.


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