Congratulations Monte you are the truest of trufans.

that would've been horrible if you were banned. what would we do without this type of information...

we all care so much about what the oboard is doing. i don't know what we would do.

This is shocking. Billy and his o-board minions doing his bidding.

It's like Rude Dog and the Dweebs.

the o-boards are the worst fucking forums

nice input.

Wait a second. Billy Corgan actually has regular dealings with Monte?

Does Billy pay him?

proudly banned for trashing mike byrne on them:smoke:

Hey guys.

Not for nothing but.....

IT'S THE SAME MUSIC WE ALL GOT FOR FREE 12 FUCKING YEARS AGO.

That is all. Carry on.

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quote of the fucking millennium

Poor Selena of the vast oceans

oh man. i'm sure no one realized this. what fools we've been!

I need to hear it for myself before I believe a rake fighter

Haha that thought has actually crossed my mind before too...

But godamn it. It really would have been cool to see how much that album fetched... And if it was bought by a hardcore fan we might have been able to get a better rip of the album.

i doubt it.

perhaps if soniclovenoise or Crabman or Mayfair from the o-board obtained it.

Not only is monte in charge now of the archive project which he pretends that there are 12 other people involved, but he's also frequently known to "interview" billy corgan and hang out with him after shows and etc.

to the best of my knowledge no, but i think monte can answer that

i was doubting the quality of the records.

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/d...?discog_id=153
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetate_disc
i have no idea how quick "much more quickly" is, and if it's only related to number of times played, or if they also degrade by just sitting on a shelf.
but there's a chance that it's no longer possible to get any quality out of these.

It does specify "degraded by wear", but then again it doesn't say that they degrade in storage.

GEN POP

also, the machina II acetates are non-lacquered, according to spfc.org.
normally acetates are "a special lacquer-coated blank disc" where they "cut a sound-modulated groove into the surface", according to wikipedia.

so there's an extra difference between "normal" acetates and the ones used for machina II. lacquer-coated vs. non-lacquered.
this might also have an effect on the quality.

but i don't know. does anyone else know more about this?

up to 30 safe plays i think, if techno dubplates are any indication. but if you store them wrong they will warp much faster than normal lps.

non laquered are of inferior quality in general and even more limited playability. it's kinda obvious when you listen to the rips. normal acetates sound as good as pressed vinyl, just fora short period of time. mII already sounds worn on the early rips.

what would have been the reason for these being made that way? Was is simply an issue of cost? was it cheaper to make them (non-lacquered)?

The reason they sound worn isn't because they're on dubplates

Dubplates should sound AMAZING, the lack of sound quality comes from either bad mastering/a bad cut/issues before the tracks reached the cutting engineer

If a track is cut to a dub, then the sound quality won't degrade over time without being played - increased play will result in more snap, crackle and pop, but not in 30 plays, think more like 90 ish. The tracks won't sound muffled as M2 does, just more hiss n' crackle.

Also remember when the rips were made, I'm guessing they would have been on at least one of the first play throughs for most of the varients circulating, though this is speculation - they all sound quite similiar from my memory

Seeing some of the released tracks do sound better/clearer than the vinyl rips of M2 (Real Love springs to mind), I'd hazard a guess the sound issues are due to mastering issues, or issues with the cutting engineer. Agreed they do sound raw, but I remember at the time that seemed to add to the charm after people's feelings on the production of M1

it was an issue of being an ass and making a stupid statement. if it was an issue of cost he would dub 25 tapes at his home.

these are not dubplates, these ar hand cut lathes. dubplates are pressed, these are... well, hand cut.

dubplates are made from master plates, i mean. hand cut lathe are individually cut to disc in real time.

You're thinking of test pressings surely? In my experience dubplates are hand cut in the process you describe, never pressed

wait, yuou're right. anyway, here's some videos of the process.

manufactured dub plates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CRd0JXvdk

hand cut lathes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4H_mLrej4Y

But the seller wasn't doing anything illegal. You didn't even bother to check your sources before hassling her.

Then what did? The auction wouldn't have been interrupted if you had left it alone.

Monte views himself as the ultimate Billy fan. so much so that he feels the need to butt into other peoples' shit. People he doesn't know.

not unlike his daily race to post incomplete sentences and grammatical abortions on his blog, just so he can claim "first" in the race to document billy's every fart, cough and shit before Hipsters United or Grunge Report or whatever mentions it. Monte doing shit like this is his way of making himself important. HE knows what billy thinks! HE knows before everyone else. And that gives him license to act as arbiter of fandom.

Jesus Christ. We all thought you were Monte's right hand man. You know, the guy who posted on Crestfallen all the time, bigged up Byrne and defended BC in the face of reality?

When did you and Monte fall out? Did he not spoon you to sleep one night? did you feel rejected?

Tell Netphoria. Everyone care.

Is this incredibly gay?