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Catherine Wheel 11-06-2011 04:11 AM

Do you think trip hop will ever be looked at in the same way as jazz?
 
Will it be a genre that will stand the test of time and be given a lot of respect? Or will it remain relatively obscure?

redbreegull 11-06-2011 04:21 AM

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mellon_c0llie 11-06-2011 09:21 AM

Jazz was really radical at the time because it broke all the rules, like every round of pop music that followed. When the kids started getting into Rock 'n Roll there were die hard Jazz fans who would not let go. Jazz was that generations rebellious music. It belonged to them. Trip-hop will always belong to the people who loved it the most BUT because of the multitude of different music styles prevalent in the 1990's and early 2000's the percentage of the population that experienced Trip-Hop and loved Trip-Hop will be less than those who were Jazz enthusiasts. Therefore Jazz has lasting value because of it's audience and cultural impact. There were always be Jazz purists and those Jazz purists will be replaced by 90's grunge purists, techno enthusiasts, and Trip-Hop fanatics. Because of the specificity of the genre the intensity of the potential fanbase is fractured.

Mooney 11-06-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_c0llie (Post 3786573)
There were always be Jazz purists and those Jazz purists will be replaced by 90's grunge purists

:think:
:think::think:
:think::think::think:

:rofl:

lala 11-06-2011 10:33 AM

Jazz from Fresh Prince? Dj Jazzy Jeff?

mellon_c0llie 11-06-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooney (Post 3786578)
:think:
:think::think:
:think::think::think:

:rofl:

sorry.

What I meant was that there will always be someone to fill that void, whether it be 90's grunge enthusiasts or new wave fans or people who just wont let disco die.

smashingjj 11-06-2011 12:47 PM

yes

redbreegull 11-06-2011 01:41 PM

basically media and art have become extremely fractured and specialized. No one has to tap into the mainstream of pop thought anymore to find music if they don't want. I can find outlets and venues to hear whatever kind of music I already want to hear.

slunken 11-06-2011 03:32 PM

hip hop is looked at with the same reverance as jazz. talking exclusively about a sub-genre is irrelevant.

supermaid 11-06-2011 03:50 PM

tricky question

redbreegull 11-06-2011 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 3786655)
hip hop is looked at with the same reverance as jazz. talking exclusively about a sub-genre is irrelevant.

I mean jazz has become a "culturally canonized" art form. You can go to public school and learn to play jazz music. Hip hop has not crossed that boundary yet, probably because it is still relevant to young people

TuralyonW3 11-06-2011 04:03 PM

Good 'ol Catherine Wheel.

And if you're asking will "trip-hop" ever be a household term like "jazz" then no of course not.

Dogfighter28 11-06-2011 04:10 PM

trip hop reynolds

slunken 11-06-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 3786659)
Hip hop has not crossed that boundary yet,

i think it has

duovamp 11-06-2011 05:34 PM

What the fuck do high school kids listen to now?

slunken 11-06-2011 05:42 PM

THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE OFF IN THE DISTANCE

redbreegull 11-06-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 3786682)
i think it has

rock music has been around ~twice as long as hip hop and it still is not really close to entering the public psychology as a "highbrow" art form the way jazz has, and hip hop is even less so

Euronomus 11-06-2011 06:30 PM

I've always considered trip-hop as an extension of jazz. IMHO It's far more related to it than to hip-hop musically.

Trotskilicious 11-07-2011 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 3786655)
hip hop is looked at with the same reverance as jazz.

no it's not

there's still plenty of people that hate it because they don't understand it

Trotskilicious 11-07-2011 02:47 AM

I actually do hate jazz though but how many people other than me and Vince Noir say that out loud?

Jazz is sooooo not punk rock.

samuel redman 11-07-2011 09:45 AM

jazz will always be a bitch to play

therefore i cannot dislike it

myosis 11-07-2011 10:23 PM

Catherine Wheel why don't you stick to shoegaze records, k?

Catherine Wheel 11-07-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euronomus (Post 3786704)
I've always considered trip-hop as an extension of jazz. IMHO It's far more related to it than to hip-hop musically.

Some trip hop artists like Jay Jay Johanson, Thievery Corporation, Zero 7, and Portishead definitely have a jazz feel to them. I like trip hop and jazz for some of the same reasons. The experimental nature of both. The mellowness.

bahnzah 11-08-2011 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3786864)
I actually do hate jazz though but how many people other than me and Vince Noir say that out loud?

Jazz is sooooo not punk rock.

jazz is about as punk as it gets.

Trotskilicious 11-08-2011 01:15 AM

free form wankery is very un punk


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