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Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 07:49 PM

St. Vincent
 
I like it also she am purty.

Dogfighter28 09-20-2011 07:52 PM

i'd hit it

??? 09-20-2011 08:28 PM

she is fully legit. interesting songwriter and possibly the first great female "alternative" guitarist as well, imo.

TuralyonW3 09-20-2011 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ??? (Post 3764249)
possibly the first great female "alternative" guitarist as well, imo.


BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA. dude seriously.

Do I really need to make a list?

TuralyonW3 09-20-2011 08:45 PM

I mean fuck me

??? 09-20-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 3764261)
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA. dude seriously.

Do I really need to make a list?

few subjects are of quite as personal importance to me.

please go ahead.

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 08:48 PM

CARRIE FUCKING BROWNSTEIN FOR ONE

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 08:50 PM

i'm partial to mary timony also

TuralyonW3 09-20-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ??? (Post 3764263)
few subjects are of quite as personal importance to me.

please go ahead.

dude if she's your favorite or something that's one thing...but calling her the "first great?"

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 08:54 PM

carrie brownstein was coming up with insanely catchy riffs when annie clark was still in elementary school

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 08:54 PM

and i like her guitar work, noise grrrls are my favorite kind of grrrls

??? 09-20-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 3764272)
dude if she's your favorite or something that's one thing...but calling her the "first great?"


i didn't call her the first great female guitarist period, just the first great/famous "alternative" one. when i think about great alternative guitarists, i think of johnny marr, mett bellamy, billy corgan, jeff buckley, jonny greenwood, jack white, the edge. not necessarily technical virtuosos but stylistic visionaries. in my opinion probably the two greatest female guitarists period are Kaki King and Kelli Rudick, but I consider them famous for their technical virtuosity more than their application to alternative songwriting. fair distinction?

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 09:11 PM

yeah but that's still ridiculous see: Brownstein, Carrie Fucking

especially since Thurston Moore isn't on your male list, wtf is wrong with you

TuralyonW3 09-20-2011 09:13 PM

I'm callin' you out Isle

??? 09-20-2011 09:14 PM

re: thurston

show me one great riff the man has written. i'm something of a purist and don't give much credit to noise makers unless they are also great writers/players.

??? 09-20-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 3764305)
I'm callin' you out Isle

where's that fucking list you promised me

TuralyonW3 09-20-2011 09:18 PM

ugh sorry I'm done with this thread after your Thurston comment.

I'll have to check out more St. Vincent trots.

??? 09-20-2011 09:19 PM

looooser

??? 09-20-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 3764309)

I'll have to check out more St. Vincent.


taste the difference, motherfucker.


Banana 09-20-2011 10:02 PM

Big fan of her latest album, had it for awhile.

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ??? (Post 3764306)
re: thurston

show me one great riff the man has written. i'm something of a purist and don't give much credit to noise makers unless they are also great writers/players.

name one "alternative" guitarist you like that wasn't influenced and/or inspired by him, directly or indirectly. the entire genre was practically invented by sonic youth

also where's J. Mascis? I reiterate: eat shit.

I mean i can forgive you for not mentioning Michael Gira, maybe you aren't hip to it yet.

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 11:01 PM

also i can say that the sprawl has great riffage to just name one song

teen age riot ALSO

Trotskilicious 09-20-2011 11:03 PM

but then again you still haven't retracted your original statement even though i provided you with a counter point in Carrie F. Brownstein, so this is all pointless

slunken 09-21-2011 03:48 AM

go jam eleanor friedberger while you're at it you bunch of faggots.

??? 09-21-2011 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3764363)
name one "alternative" guitarist you like that wasn't influenced and/or inspired by him, directly or indirectly. the entire genre was practically invented by sonic youth

also where's J. Mascis? I reiterate: eat shit.

I mean i can forgive you for not mentioning Michael Gira, maybe you aren't hip to it yet.

By which you mean, Thurston was the guitarist who made it cool to play badly and is largely responsible for many of the terrible indie bands we have today?

And anyway, the guitarists you have listed so far are all low alternative, when I'm talking about high alternative. Sonic Youth/J.Mascis/Sleater Kinney have their place in alt rock history but they are tinkerers. I'm interested in players who don't just crudely bash away at the strings but who can create atmosphere (without a shitload of effects), and who can create fine riffs and melodies that have a lyrical quality by themselves, that perhaps blur the line between classic rhythm/lead playing styles and generally stay away from pentatonic and other typical rock/blues scales. I've searched the world over (read: internet) for a female guitarist that meets those criteria and St.Vincent is the only one I've come across. There are plenty of female shredders, classical guitarists, and female punk bands but as yet there has NOT been a famous female high-alternative guitarist.

Trotskilicious 09-21-2011 10:05 PM

i think you just disappeared into your own ass

aztec litany service 09-22-2011 03:56 PM

omg, sonic youth 'plays badly'? they've only done some of the most original/artistic/mindblowing stuff ever w/ the instrument. i wouldn't even attempt to try to do some of the stuff they've done. they're fucking amazing guitarists. anyone can learn a blues scale and a major scale and play a rock lead/riff.

being able to play in several different totally unorthodox tunings [just for one example] takes real musical knowledge/instinct. grr


and st. vincent, yeah i listened to a song. interesting guitar, didn't really care for the song or the singing. hate me.

pale blue eyes 09-22-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3764267)
CARRIE FUCKING BROWNSTEIN FOR ONE

FUCK YES.

bahnzah 09-22-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3764845)
i think you just disappeared into your own ass

not surprising as he was clearly searching for every last piece of shit he could pull out of it.

ffs isle.

MusicMan4 09-22-2011 09:08 PM

someone change isles title to full retard


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