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28if 03-19-2011 02:36 PM

is it a good idea to get involved in the Libyan civil war?
 
France is blowing some shit up today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...a.html?_r=1&hp

Trotskilicious 03-19-2011 02:39 PM

i'm glad they are, yes. Qaddafi needs to relinquish power, it's not about being for or against the rebels it's about taking a stand against Qaddafi. And we can accomplish this the same way we did in Serbia, which turned out to be a good thing for that region.

and i'm especially glad it's the french. I was saying for a while, why do you have to wait for us, we are over committed. it's not our shit this time, the French and the Germans should do it because america and Britain were lead into Iraq by a retard cowboy and his dippy british sidekick.

Order 66 03-19-2011 03:33 PM

its a good idea to "get involved" but with extreme caution since many of the rebels are anti american extremists

Banana 03-19-2011 03:39 PM

That's kind of the way revolutions and shit are done. We would have never won ours without the French finally taking their sweet time to get involved and help us out.

Order 66 03-19-2011 03:50 PM

the french go to war? i thought they were all faggy and shit

Order 66 03-19-2011 04:11 PM

obamer is about to give a speech on 'operation: odyssey dawn'

a war, how exciting

Tchocky 03-19-2011 04:16 PM

Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion.

ATS 03-19-2011 04:17 PM

id say its a bad idea, but a better idea than iraq and afghanistan were

Banana 03-19-2011 04:18 PM

Afghanistan was not a bad idea.

smashingjj 03-19-2011 04:20 PM

uh how the fuck was that not bad

Order 66 03-19-2011 04:29 PM

it wasn't a terrible idea we just shouldn't have taken our eye off the ball with iraq

Banana 03-19-2011 04:32 PM

^Basically that.


Al Qaeda was there and attacked us. Had go to in there and fuck them up. Problem is that we didn't make it our main focus and let it drag on long enough and allow them time to migrate over into Pakistan.

Mo 03-19-2011 04:38 PM

"Taken your eye off the ball" - yeah, that's one way to put it..

Order 66 03-19-2011 04:47 PM

most americans with a brain were against it

Banana 03-19-2011 04:54 PM

Ultimately Iraq wasn't a bad war though.

We were able to get those oil fields into the hands of American oil corporations plus we now have a pretty nice sized military hub right there in the middle east and also in the process got rid of a regime that was not one of our allies. It was not a war that was at all about our own personal safety but it will definitely yield long term benefits to our modern day empire.

Order 66 03-19-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana (Post 3705578)
Ultimately Iraq wasn't a bad war though.

We were able to get those oil fields into the hands of American oil corporations plus we now have a pretty nice sized military hub right there in the middle east and also in the process got rid of a regime that was not one of our allies. It was not a war that was at all about our own personal safety but it will definitely yield long term benefits to our modern day empire.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~wscullio/AriFleischer.jpg

Order 66 03-19-2011 04:57 PM

ah 2003 humor. where does the time go

cocksure 03-19-2011 04:57 PM

yeah operation enduring freedom definitely succeeded in decreasing the chances of something like 9/11 happening again

Order 66 03-19-2011 05:01 PM

to play devils advocate, we probably would've ended up going against saddam at some point anyway. its just that the bush admin went about it in a very very dumb way. the exact opposite of how we're doing with libya right now

28if 03-19-2011 05:04 PM

as banana said the goal was not stopping another 9/11 it was increasing the power of the american military empire.

i'm afraid that the people of libya will be wary of supporting a new government backed by the west. aren't a lot of the opposition fighters islamic radicals? seems like a lot of them will not be down with extensive US/EU intervention. Hopefully we will leave them alone after they get qaddafi out but i'm sure we'll stick around to be repaid for our services (in their oil). just some thoughts.

exactlythesame 03-19-2011 05:04 PM

wrong board

cork_soaker 03-19-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order 66 (Post 3705561)
the french go to war? i thought they were all faggy and shit

baguette

cork_soaker 03-19-2011 05:17 PM

baguette

exactlythesame 03-19-2011 05:32 PM

moar like faguette amirite

Order 66 03-19-2011 05:35 PM

stupid french. all gay and shit

sppunk 03-19-2011 07:26 PM

11 cruise missiles, average $2 million a pop. None aimed at the target or his sons.

Great idea. Let's spread the military more thin and eventually get crazy-ass Syria and Hamas involved.

FoolofaTook 03-20-2011 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana (Post 3705575)
^Basically that.


Al Qaeda was there and attacked us. Had go to in there and fuck them up. Problem is that we didn't make it our main focus and let it drag on long enough and allow them time to migrate over into Pakistan.

Al Qaeda is an international organization. Might as well as attack Saudi Arabia and Indonesia by your logic.

Starla 03-20-2011 09:21 AM

no worries... Obama is monitoring the situation.

Sonic Johnny 03-20-2011 09:39 AM

If you don't like Avocados I mean seriously what the fuck is wrong with you.

Trotskilicious 03-20-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28if (Post 3705585)
as banana said the goal was not stopping another 9/11 it was increasing the power of the american military empire.

i'm afraid that the people of libya will be wary of supporting a new government backed by the west. aren't a lot of the opposition fighters islamic radicals? seems like a lot of them will not be down with extensive US/EU intervention. Hopefully we will leave them alone after they get qaddafi out but i'm sure we'll stick around to be repaid for our services (in their oil). just some thoughts.

non intervention makes it seem more likely that islamic fundamentalists will eventually take power

if we actually do liberate the country and do not occupy it and leave them to their own devices like Egypt, it should work out. People will not willingly elect and support a more brutal dictatorship than they already had.


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