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DeadOpera 07-26-2012 09:53 AM

don't feed the trolls.

1337 07-26-2012 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28 (Post 3890337)
No one who likes Zeitgeist better than Oceania is a proper person

I could say the same thing about somebody who openly praises Oceania

but I won't.

reprise85 07-26-2012 10:10 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

1337 07-26-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadOpera (Post 3890340)
don't feed the trolls.

Not that I care

but what's with the constant "troll" labels and shitty rep remarks every time somebody makes a post someone else doesn't agree with?

I'm generally curious about this. Like, I know it's Netphoria and all, but the fact that some of you go out of your way to let routine opinions bother you to the point where you have to comment on it via reputation points is hilarious

cry me a fucking river already :cry:

reprise85 07-26-2012 10:23 AM

what makes you think reputation takes emotion or involvement of more than 5 seconds

DeadOpera 07-26-2012 10:31 AM

it makes me feel good that futureboy gives me negative rep, he's a nice fellow. It makes me laugh that rotten ugly thinks he is giving me negative rep on old posts from 2004. dumb kid

1337 07-26-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 3890355)
what makes you think reputation takes emotion or involvement of more than 5 seconds

Anything shitty takes emotion. Negativity is the most honest emotion there is

what makes you think I'll care for five seconds or even two if you're shitty enough to leave bad rep points on my profile?

1337 07-26-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadOpera (Post 3890363)
it makes me feel good that futureboy gives me negative rep, he's a nice fellow. It makes me laugh that rotten ugly thinks he is giving me negative rep on old posts from 2004. dumb kid

Speaking of laughing

"you are crying about rep.... you'll just get it worse x10000."

made me laugh so fucking hard I almost pissed myself.

are you going to stuff me into my locker and steal my shoelaces, too?

DeadOpera 07-26-2012 10:52 AM

because you're making posts about it.


you care.

DeadOpera 07-26-2012 10:53 AM

go ahead and keep making posts about it. you'll find out soon enough :)

rottenugly 07-26-2012 10:54 AM

come on, 1337, don't turn out like croPUMPKINs or lala. just ignore the trollz.

1337 07-26-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadOpera (Post 3890409)
because you're making posts about it.


you care.

Whoa. Is that right

they should involve you in the space program for that brainstorm.

1337 07-26-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rottenugly (Post 3890418)
come on, 1337, don't turn out like croPUMPKINs or lala. just ignore the trollz.

ironic that he posts about trolling in every SP-related thread, isn't it?

DeadOpera 07-26-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 3890435)
Whoa. Is that right

they should involve you in the space program for that brainstorm.


okay dumbass...

DeadOpera 07-26-2012 11:05 AM

i'm not even leaving you negative rep points.

amoergosum 07-26-2012 12:12 PM

Can we get back to the interview I posted?
>>>
http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=134

...very interesting.

Trotskilicious 07-26-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo (Post 3890294)
I'm just jealous you had any kind of strong emotional reaction to it. Honestly. At best most of us went 'this is....ok'

this

Trotskilicious 07-26-2012 01:26 PM

maybe we would have if we didn't give up because zeitgest sucked so bad

Trotskilicious 07-26-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 3890351)
but what's with the constant "troll" labels and shitty rep remarks every time somebody makes a post someone else doesn't agree with?

are you new to the internet

reprise85 07-26-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 3890404)
Anything shitty takes emotion. Negativity is the most honest emotion there is

what makes you think I'll care for five seconds or even two if you're shitty enough to leave bad rep points on my profile?

the whole point of rep is to let someone know what you think about the post. i mean, i rarely post hateful rep, but who cares.

isn't you calling someone shitty also a hateful emotion and thus by your own logic you care even though you say you don't?

jesus this is a stupid conversation.

myosis 07-26-2012 04:06 PM

i think oceania is better than zeitgeist because i haven't heard it

Rocket Launcher 07-26-2012 04:56 PM

from the core record, 7 shades of gray, bleeding the orchid and bring the light aged well for me, i think they are well produced all in all. but the b-sides like zeitgeist, stellar and ma belle are pretty acoustic pieces in their own.

whywontyoulistn 07-26-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket Launcher (Post 3890683)
7 shades of gray

Ummm...been catching up on some reading recently, have we?

brutechinasky 07-26-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28 (Post 3890338)
And the same goes for anyone who thinks Oceania is good enough to be considered canon.

what the fuck does that even mean

it's canon and it's mediocre

RenewRevive 07-26-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 3890330)
1. One Diamond, One Heart
2. The Celestials
3. Pomp and Circumstance
4. Sorrows (In Blue)
5. Wildflower
6. Tom Tom
7. In My Body
8. Endless Summer
9. With Every Light
10. Starz
11. Spangled
12. Desire

could probably do a top 25 if you pressed, but why bother?

aw, come on, you're losing your marbles amigo.

Tom Tom is the best Teargarden song.
Starz is probably the best Zeit song.
Nothing off Machina II is inferior to Owata.
Why wouldn't you pick Baby Lets Rock of MSotS, instead of good tracks?
WEL. really?

tbh Owata i had high hopes for, but they fucked it over royally. i still don't actually hate it, but c'mon, just CMON!

myosis 07-26-2012 06:40 PM

i've had a feeling for a while, that a better SP comeback would have been to release a single without any warning whatsoever.
make the tracks : United States + 7 Shades of Black + Starz
use this image as a cover (just the flag part, no "smashing pumpkins")



be done with it.

stumpycat 07-27-2012 12:01 AM

Yeah, pretty much; at least it would have competed nicely with the Green Day cover.

1337 07-27-2012 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 3890612)
the whole point of rep is to let someone know what you think about the post. i mean, i rarely post hateful rep, but who cares.

isn't you calling someone shitty also a hateful emotion and thus by your own logic you care even though you say you don't?

jesus this is a stupid conversation.

I know, right?

it's just amazing to think some bitter whingebag asswipe who calls himself Deadopera would think I care what he thinks of my posts

thats all.

Oceania sucks

1337 07-27-2012 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myosis (Post 3890756)
i've had a feeling for a while, that a better SP comeback would have been to release a single without any warning whatsoever.
make the tracks : United States + 7 Shades of Black + Starz
use this image as a cover (just the flag part, no "smashing pumpkins")



be done with it.

That makes a load of sense. Drop a 10-minute comeback single with no fanfare or even a name on the cover

because we all know that was the way to get your name out there back in 2007 :rolleyes:

bunny 07-27-2012 05:46 AM

the production of this album has really failed it.
it didn't sit well when it was was released, and it didn't age well either.
which is quite unfortunate because I actually like the songwriting, they are great songs - billy just turned them to shit in the studio (as we've come to expect i guess)

the development of that era are a total write off for me though.
FOL, Glow, Superchrist, American Gothic. puke and please hit me in the head to forget them.

we'll still have the residency songs as live recordings, simple as they should be.
http://thepumpkins.net/music/672-mus...dency-songs-07
It would have been amazing if they had tracked all of them for us in this room with zero overdubs.


The Leaving Lament & If All Goes Wrong are some of my favorite songs ever...


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