exposing your habits to toddlers like that

:rofl:

i am mostly but I am just buying a plant to smoke, they are the ones doing xanax and cocaine

:D

those poor kids don't have a chance

it makes me want to weep for humanity

trust me i know

New interview >>>

Source:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...rock-star.html

who the fuck is billy listening to? nobody said this. the album just sucked hard, is all.

Wait, is he saying Zeitgeist was a greatest hits of the Pumpkins sounds, or the fans wanted a greatest hits of their sound?

Zeitgeist actually was like review of all their previous sounds condensed into one record and a bunch of crappy songs.

He must be rehearsing his interview rants. On Brian Solis he pretty much said the same, word by word.

yeah i was confused about that too. it seems like he said both.

...haven't seen this clip before >>>

^^^ Wow, that is crazy good quality...

...great quality and awesome camera/editing work.

They should release that show on Blu-ray.

>>>

Source:
http://www.pulsefilms.com/talent/giorgio-testi/

I was in that gig. I can confirm it kicked ass. "To Sheila" was the highlight. That was before Zeitgeist was released, so listening to the album was a bit of a downer...

Some more clips from the Madrid show >>>

Zeitgeist had a really good tour and some really cool art surrounding it.

I really could care less what anyone thinks but Zeitgeist had some really good tracks that just had bad production and bad vocals. Doomsday Clock, Bleeding the Orchid, That's the Way, Tarantula, United States (especially this song), Bring the Light and For God and Country were ALL great songs RUINED by bad production and bad vocals.

That's why the songs kicked so much ass live.

First ever live performance of 'Bring the Light' >>>

Which Zeitgeist B-side/s would you have put on the album?

Stellar, Ma Belle and Zeitgeist. you could make a case for Death From Above, but meh.

lol

nice video though, gotta say.

Yes, PULSE is second to none ( at least in Europe). A 'Best Of' Testi's music videos is in the making, I guess it will feature the Smashing Pumpkins concert in Madrid.

Btw thank you for posting all these articles and videos, amoergosum.

Listen to Jimmy here...
Absolutely.
Fucking.
Amazing.

>>>

jimmy is the only remotely good thing about zeitgeist

It's absolutely insane that they didn't in*clude 'Stellar' on the original release.
...love that song.

can somebody speak for the masses, in a nutshell, about what the consensus beef is with Zeitgeist's production?

I'm just curious to know what the board in general thinks is the problem with it

over-blown, no nuance, no warmth, dry-as-a-bone, cheesy billy harmonies, etc. you name it. probably brickwalled too, but i can't say i've listened to it enough to know for sure.

Roy Thomas Baker and mastering is what's wrong with it.

Was it any coincidence that Billy's solo in Bring the Light sounded like Brian May? Anyway, Baker neutered the layered guitar sound of the Pumpkins and took all of the dreamy-ness from their music. It was produced so cold and lifeless that it sounds like crap. He did a good job with the dynamics and the little Tarantula break down makes me know that he chose to eradicate all the dreamy Pumpkin sound from the album. Pomp and Circumstance should've been Take Me Down or Cupid de Locke but it was produced like he was singing in a concrete basement.

RTB also obviously tried to make Billy Corgan sound like Freddie Mercury. He did the Queen vox layer on Zeitgeist. Corgan's voice blows now, so it was a horrific idea.

The album was then obliterated in mastering erasing any shred of depth. Surprisingly, it wasn't necessarily brickwalled as it had a lot of range but everything sounded shallow and the drums disconnected.

There are NO redeeming factor's about Z's production. Tarantula was a chore to play at loud levels.

bad production is only one of Z's problems, and RTB wasn't even the only producer who worked on the record