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Trotskilicious 02-06-2011 05:31 PM

i like miles davis alright but jazz never moved me.

exactlythesame 02-06-2011 11:33 PM

jazz isn't really emotional, it's intellectual, thus the elitist attitude

stumpycat 02-07-2011 12:40 AM

I used to hate the stuff, but the unconventional rhythms and complex structures have me coming back for more. I like my jazz hard lemonade style: the plain drink is the genre in question (rock, metal, etc.) and the jazz is the boozy stuff you add in that takes the experience of drinking it to another level.

slunken 02-07-2011 12:49 AM

you like food metaphors, huh?

slunken 02-07-2011 12:50 AM

didn't you do a steak/sp song variations thing once?

Luke de Spa 02-07-2011 01:11 AM

billy corgan and food themes

stumpycat 02-07-2011 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 3690918)
didn't you do a steak/sp song variations thing once?

Oh yeah, I did! I forgot about that one.
Then I did one a few days ago about margaritas, I think.
I cook in the evenings and I play music, so maybe that is why that association happens. But then again, margaritas and hard lemonade are not exactly "food" so I'm not sure why those come up except that they are both sensory experiences which happen to involve different sensory modalities that can be easily analogized.

FoolofaTook 02-07-2011 01:50 PM

You're blowing my mind, dude!

slunken 02-07-2011 03:56 PM

i'm just hungry now

Eulogy 02-07-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exactlythesame (Post 3690878)
jazz isn't really emotional, it's intellectual, thus the elitist attitude

yeah haven't you guys ever seen the commitments

slunken 02-07-2011 07:02 PM

they're talking about music not movies

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 12:24 AM

Every fan of a particular genre is going to be an elitist with an elitist attitude when it comes to music. Ever notice how fucking difficult it is to find a song that pleases everyone, or even just one or two of your friends? People, myself included, close the door to new or different sounds once they've decided that they like a particular genre.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 02:08 AM

what's the phrase people keep saying "get better friends"?

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 03:02 AM

My best friend is like my carbon copy except for taste in music. Music seems like something that has to be experienced individually first before you can expect your friends to get hyped about it, and other people usually don't give a fuck about the GREATEST SONG EVER that you show them because they already have their set opinions about what good music is. It's one of the hardest things to explain to someone else.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 03:13 AM

not really just play it they go hey that sounds pretty goo

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 03:17 AM

Your music is better than mine is though. More people like it, too. I listen to freaky avant guarde shit and really loud metal...and the smashing pumpkins. those are things that people dont seem to like or even give it a chance.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 03:22 AM

yeah not everybody likes sleater-kinney and the pixies either

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 03:26 AM

so you see my point then. especially if that person was a fan of techno or rap and decided that they hated all music with guitars. they wouldn't even pay attention to your songs because they would hear the guitar and remember that they blacklisted any type of music that includes it.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 03:34 AM

yeah jesus talk about a hard sell i usually can't play rap in my own house

and no, not everyone blacklists stuff, that's what kids do.

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 03:51 AM

So you've never generalized your tastes? "Oh I hate country/pop/jazz/!" Maybe you'd like an artist, but you'd probably avoid exposure because of it's 'genre'

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 03:53 AM

yes but i grew up

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 03:58 AM

bullshit. I've seen you call very broad things crap without giving an individual part of it a chance. but i refuse to dig for quotes so I'm sure you'll refute that.

Kahlo 02-08-2011 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets (Post 3691459)
freaky avant guarde shit

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ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 07:22 AM

Excuse me, your highness.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets (Post 3691470)
bullshit. I've seen you call very broad things crap without giving an individual part of it a chance. but i refuse to dig for quotes so I'm sure you'll refute that.

yeah i give everything a chance and sometimes i dislike it. sometimes i dislike it so intensely, like BlackOps, that I label it an Enemy of Culture

ilikeplanets 02-08-2011 01:15 PM

I'm convinced your hatred of BlackOps is really a hard-to-deal-with love.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 01:25 PM

the only person who plays that game that i know is my dealer so how is it that hard to deal with

Mo 02-08-2011 01:58 PM

Maybe HE is hard to deal with?

Hurr hurr hurr.

Trotskilicious 02-08-2011 02:05 PM

nah he's pretty relaxed. sometimes his buddy is over with his toddlers which is really uncomfortable though.

exactlythesame 02-08-2011 07:52 PM

you should be ashamed


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