True weather not it was effective is a different story. And some of the alternate version were what caused the rifts. I Am One rants, Billy just refused to admit they were horrible. Funny that he made the same exact mistake and had the same exact fights on the anniversary tour.

i think this is my least fav weezer yet
it's just, not very weezery

I haven't even listened to this shit yet. Should I?

In better Weezer news, the deluxe Pinkerton tracklist:

DISC ONE
Original Album:
1. Tired Of Sex
2. Getchoo
3. No Other One
4. Why Bother?
5. Across The Sea
6. The Good Life
7. El Scorcho
8. Pink Triangle
9. Falling For You
10. Butterfly
11. You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
12. Devotion
13. The Good Life (Radio Remix)
14. Waiting On You
15. I Just Threw Out The Love Of My Dreams
16. The Good Life (Live and Acoustic)
17. Pink Triangle (Radio Remix)
18. I Swear It’s True*
19. Pink Triangle (Live and Acoustic)

DISC TWO
1. You Won’t Get With Me Tonight*
2. The Good Life (Live at Y100 Sonic Session)*
3. El Scorcho (Live at Y100 Sonic Session)*
4. Pink Triangle (Live at Y100 Sonic Session)*
5. Why Bother? (Live at Reading Festival 1996)*
6. El Scorcho (Live at Reading Festival 1996)*
7. Pink Triangle (Live at Reading Festival 1996)*
8. The Good Life (Live at X96)
9. El Scorcho (Live and Acoustic)*
10. Across The Sea Piano Noodles*
11. Butterfly (Alternate Take)*
12. Long Time Sunshine*
13. Getting Up And Leaving*
14. Tired Of Sex (Tracking Rough)*
15. Getchoo (Tracking Rough)*
16. Tragic Girl*

*Previously unreleased

Oh, no Superfreind? :mad: And I hope the Longtime Sushine that mixes in themes from all the other songs is somewhere on there... We're missing some songs.

Even more better Weezer news:

Blue/Pinkerton Tour dates:
09-24 Columbus, OH - Ohio State University
09-25 Peoria, IL - Bradley University
10-01 Las Vegas, NV - Mirage Hotel and Casino
10-29 New Orleans, LA - Voodoo Festival
10-30 Atlanta, GA - Chastain Park Amphitheatre
11-26 Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Amphitheatre
11-27 Los Angeles, CA - Gibson Amphitheatre
11-29 San Francisco, CA - Nob Hill Masonic Center
11-30 San Francisco, CA - Nob Hill Masonic Center

Tracklist for Rivers Cuomo - Alone III: The Pinkerton Years:
1.I'm So Lonely
2.Getchoo
3.Lisa
4.Negativland
5.You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
6.When You’re Alone
7.Susanne
8.There Is No Other One
9.Let Me Wash At Your Sink
10.Waiting On You
11.Oh No, This Is Not For Me
12.Tired of Sex
13.She's Had A Girl
14.What Is This I Find?
15.Now I Finally See
16.Longtime Sunshine
17.I'm Lonely On A Saturday Night
18.Oh God I'm Hungry
19.I'm On Fire, You Are A Liar
20.The End of My String
21.I Can't Break Your Heart
22.Money Makes Me Happy
23.My Mind's On You
24.Defeat on the Hill
25.Clarinet Waltz
26.A Glorious Moment
OK, so this is the rest of Songs From The Black Hole apparently; release in December 2010...

Sweet. I was gonna say that the Pinkerton deluxe was a tad disappointing after the fairly lengthy wait for it. They should just ******* the Rivers disc with it and have a 3 disc set ala The Cure's Disintegration rerelease earlier this year.

Also, I think there's a Weezer anthology of unreleased recordings spanning their whole career coming up (unless it was scrapped again) that should have even more Pinkerton stuff, as well as the totally unheard Post-Pinkerton songs from 1998...

So basically at this point Weezer is reduced to just selling us countless demos and special editions. Put all the Blackhole stuff on the Pinkerton special edition and get rid of the lame live tracks. I'm sure in a few years there will be a super deluxe Pinkerton that costs $200 and they will try to get us to buy this stuff all over again.

Yes but unreleased Pinkerton > anything they could possibly do now.

if only b0llstrer did the same

On top of that, judging by the songs that they totally scrapped for Green Album (the "Summer Songs") and the songs they totally scrapped for Make Believe (the "Album 5 Demos"), all their recent unreleased songs are probably > then any album they put out this last decade.

I have no issue with that. I have an issue with it being spread across 30 different CDs to try to make more money.

Dl that shit.

107.7 The End » New Music: Weezer from “Death to False Metal” & “Pinkerton” Re-Issue Here! (stream)

Streaming 2 songs from Death to False Weezer and 2 from the Pinkerton Delux.

Once again this shit reminds me they should have just broken up in 1998.

God, we Pumpkins fans think we have it bad sometimes. Try playing some of this new stuff and Tragic Girl back to back.

it's every bit as terrible

http://api.ning.com/files/uS8VBueCR0...AndLeaving.mp3

Oooops. There's Getting Up And Leaving. It's funny how this Pinkerton outtake that was never released totally shits all over everything they've done this last decade.

gave me the coat of your back suzanne

^ best weezer song

Suzanne takes you down to her place near the river
You can hear the boats go by
You can spend the night beside her
And you know that she's half crazy
But that's why you want to be there
And she feeds you tea and oranges
That come all the way from China
And just when you mean to tell her
That you have no love to give her
Then she gets you on her wavelength
And she lets the river answer
That you've always been her lover
And you want to travel with her
And you want to travel blind
And you know that she will trust you
For you've touched her perfect body with your mind.

And Jesus was a sailor
When he walked upon the water
And he spent a long time watching
From his lonely wooden tower
And when he knew for certain
Only drowning men could see him
He said "All men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free t****
But he himself was broken
Long before the sky would open
Forsaken, almost human
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone
And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you'll trust him
For he's touched your perfect body with his mind.

Now Suzanne takes your hand
And she leads you to the river
She is wearing rags and feathers
From Salvation Army counters
And the sun pours down like honey
On our lady of the harbour
And she shows you where to look
Among the garbage and the flowers
There are heroes in the seaweed
There are children in the morning
They are leaning out for love
And they will lean that way forever
While Suzanne holds the mirror
And you want to travel with her
And you want to travel blind
And you know that you can trust her
For she's touched your perfect body with her mind.

^do you think he sings it with that "pulsating" volume in his voice to underline the maritime motif?

After a few listens I gotta say this is a fantastic tune. 'Tragic Girl' had promise, but it dragged towards the end and came across unfinished. This, on the other hand, is where its at. A great reminder of how good of a songwriter Rivers was in his heyday.

I actually luv it for some reason.

Death To False Metal album (odds and ends from 93-08):

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And even better, Pinkerton Deluxe:

CD 1

CD 2

actually what i get from this is it wasn't a loss of chops or an increase in hamminess that really fucked weezer (although they helped, sure), but crisp production. rawness suits the band way better than their latter-day studio sterility.

one other thing: this song would be much shorter if it were written recently. cuomo doesn't do the builds any more. a shame generally, but really, who cares. pinkerton should be enough of this kind of music for anyone

Yeah, that's true. I literally thought the same thing today after hearing this leak. The production ethics now make them terrible, along with lazy, formuliac, hit-driven, least-common-denominater songwriting.

I was kinda let down by this. I guess I was expectng more, but these "new" songs are really unfinished sounding, like the band didn't really work on them enough and didn't invest the time into them. But yeah, I guess that's what it is! Unfinished outtakes from Pinkerton!

But the Longtime Sunshine is very awesome. What's the third and forth song they wove into the end? Starts off with Longtime Sunshine, then Why Bother to the left; then what is it to the right, and then to the left again?; then I hear Blast Off! which was surprisingly absent from this, even though the band re-recorded it for the Pinkerton sessions...

EDIT:
Oh my shit typos everywhere

you think in letters?

That and the fact that they write horrible songs now, wait no it's just the horrible songwriting. Never mind.

Hey fuckheads!

Alone 3 leaked, now we have nearly all of Songs From The Black Hole. So if you're interested, here is my reconstruction of it...

Weezer - Songs From The Black Hole (soniclovenoize reconstruction)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3mmso8l1vooslrx