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that's nearly as retarded as the making of loveless. i don't think anything is as retarded as the making of loveless though.

Tell us about the making of Loveless!

bunch of shoegaze wankers got in a studio and fucked around for months and killed the record label? i thought you knew everything about music and had the best taste and etc

how is that retarded and not awesome 2 the max

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3647225)

bunch of shoegaze wankers got in a studio and fucked around for months and killed the record label? i thought you knew everything about music and had the best taste and etc

Oh, I do. I was just testing you, to see if you knew.

You passsed the test. Well done, my son.

This song is awesome. By far the best tune on the album. The moment the distorted guitars kick in.. so good.

those guitars sound like korn or something terrible

So much material by this band sounds the same. I'm still waiting for Rivers to step outside of his comfort zone like Billy did during Mellon Collie and Adore.

Wow, this thread is a lot like Weezer itself.

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Originally Posted by Dogfighter28 (Post 3648353)

those guitars sound like korn or something terrible

dildos.

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Originally Posted by Catherine Wheel (Post 3648387)

So much material by this band sounds the same. I'm still waiting for Rivers to step outside of his comfort zone like Billy did during Mellon Collie

Huh?

the guitars sounds like dildos

Weezer - Hurley | Music Review | Tiny Mix Tapes

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Weezer

Hurley

[Epitaph; 2010]
by Gabe Vodicka

Styles: arena rock
Others: Puddle of Mudd

Weezer’s slow transformation from geeky alternative heroes to mainstream rock bottom feeders has been pretty well-documented elsewhere, so I won’t bother with any over-thought ****-analysis here. This band used to be pretty good, and now they’re not so good. That’s that. The announcement of Hurley, the band’s eighth album, offered a glimmer of hope in that it would be the group’s first-ever release outside the major-label confines of Geffen. Although the mall-punk-hued Epitaph is hardly a breeding ground for artistic virtuosity, it was still worth asking: what if Weezer’s increasingly generic output over the past 10 years was a result of Rivers Cuomo’s inability to handle mounting corporate pressure?

Turns out, that wasn’t it. Hurley is, for the most part, chock full of the same mechanical dreck that has peppered Weezer’s last handful of releases, from Maladroit to Raditude. (I’m being generous in leaving out the maligned self-titled Green Album; its generic pop-punk was more forgettable than unpleasant.) Cuomo has insinuated that Hurley is a return to form; that its canned nostalgia and "raw, emotional" lyrical bent are meant to be reminiscent of 1997’s Pinkerton. This is all bullshit. Sure, lead single "Memories" is the catchiest thing the band has penned in some time, but its awkward cultural references ("Playin’ Hacky Sack back when Audioslave was still Rage") hardly qualify as anything resembling emotion.

"Ruling Me," co-written by Semisonic’s Dan Wilson, is a solid slab of hooky pop-punk, but again, its lyrics are dumber than dumb. Let’s get one thing straight: Rivers Cuomo has never been the most brilliant lyricist. His childlike phrasings worked so well on the band’s first two records because the band seemed and sounded so excited; they were, after all, just a bunch of goofy dudes who were suddenly getting paid to play rock music, and their enthusiasm showed. Fast forward a decade, millions of dollars, and one clothing line tie-in later, and, well, you get the idea.

If there is a compliment to be paid to Hurley, it is that the band refrains from delving into the sort of WTF territory they’ve explored of late. There are no Lil Wayne cameos or Rivers raps to be found here. There are, though, some really bad songs. The chugging, campy "Where’s My Sex?" boasts some truly awful lyrics, even for Weezer. (You can read for yourself here.) “Smart Girls” finds Cuomo trying to bag him some college-educated poon, I guess. On "Time Flies," he muses on the "stupid damn song" that "will still be in your head" after he’s gone. It’s a rare example of Cuomo being kinda clever; too bad it’s a not-so-veiled insult to the band’s remaining fans.

I don’t know. Maybe Weezer deserves the benefit of the doubt. Maybe there’s a whole new crop of kids discovering the band’s fuzzed chords and towering major-key melodies (which, it should be pointed out, haven’t much changed since the Blue Album) and itching to start their own bands. But it’s also hard to excuse Hurley for its general laziness. And besides, the kids still know how to seek out the good stuff. A recent comment on Weezer’s MySpace reads in part:

"I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WEEZER GO BACK TO SOME OF PINKERTON U GUYS CHANGED A LOT PEOPLE SAY THAT WEEZER BECAME SELLOUTS I DON'T THINK SO BUT SOME OF UR NEW SONGS AREN'T SO GREAT…LIKE UR NEW SONGS ARE MORE KIDDISH…I JUST HEARD PINKERTON TODAY FOR PROBABLY JUST A HOUR AND I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO WEEZER FOR MOST OF MY WHOLE LIFE AND RIGHT NOW I AM 13 SO I AM ASKING AS A FAN OF WEEZER TO PLEASE CHANGE SOME OF UR MATERIAL…PINKERTON IS MUSICAL GENUIS WEEZER FOREVER."

Word.

sp and weezer should go on the failed legends tour

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3649351)

sp and weezer should go on the failed legends tour

At least Weezer found anew younger audience.

I've seen Weezer twice and SP twice

Weezer 2010 > Weezer 2005 > SP 2007 > SP 2008

if you don't go just to be an asshole and complain about them not playing Pinkerton it's an amazing show

also SP would probably have to open for Weezer at this point which is majorly LOL

i saw weezer live in 2005 and they were pretty lame

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Originally Posted by redbull (Post 3649399)

What if go to see them on the Pinkerton night of the new tour and complain that they are not playing Maladroit?

Hashpipe is a badass live song...opened with it at Bonnaroo

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Originally Posted by redbull (Post 3649399)

iron flag is great much in the same way that you say weezer is

yeah but something tells me rivers doesn't go into an album like raditude with the attitude that its going to be a classic, epic album (which wu-tang constantly seem to do and which is what brought down wu tang forever)

redbull, you missed good SP (and good weezer for that matter). So while your opinion is correct imo, in no way do even the Pinkerton tour weezer shows match the "good ol' days" SP shows. weezer performances were always very short and unoriginal. Not bad, and entertaining, but just play the music similar the album, no banter and get out in an hour and 20 minutes if that.

yeah :( the earliest I remember being aware of weezer was in 1999, I think. Whenever it was that Green Album came out?

2001, I believe. I was fortunate to be the perfect age for weezer in the Pinkerton era and saw them three times on that tour. It was great times, but SP shows (like any original rock show like them, Pearl Jam, etc.) are not too comparable.

Shit, I think the best weezer shows I saw was when the were touring with Blink 182. Rivers is so fucking weird it came through to the audience in those earlier shows.

This might be my favorite track on the new album, and it's a bonus track:

Reminds me of old Weezer, with just a tad of the newer intentional weirdness

Honestly, my biggest problem with new Weezer might just be the lack of guitar solos, although the all-out goofiness can get to me too (Where's My Sex is 100x dumber than Beverly Hills). They went from lead breaks in almost every song to almost none after Make Believe.

I'm not one of those people that thinks you have to have a guitar solo for a rock song to be good, but it was such a huge part of their sound- a dorkiness and meekness yet metal worship and incredibly catchy, tasteful, short guitar ditties that worked so well in their hits (Buddy Holly, Say It Ain't So... the solo in "Falling For You" says so much, I love the solos in Perfect Situation and pretty much all of them in Maladroit), even if the repeat-the-chorus-melody solos on Green were lame.

I did like some of the nerdy rap-inflected songs on the Red Album (Troublemaker, Everybody Get Dangerous), but a lot of their newer songs are just incomplete to me without their trademark lead guitar. He still writes songs that build to a climax but seems refuses to light it up these days (Hang On, on the new album)

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Originally Posted by redbull (Post 3649740)

yeah :( the earliest I remember being aware of weezer was in 1999, I think. Whenever it was that Green Album came out?

That's just sad.

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Originally Posted by sppunk (Post 3649752)

Yeah but to be fair there were also plenty of awkward Billy shows back then.

Yeah, for sure. But SP could just power rock right through it, and they always altered songs so the shows were unique in some way.