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Esty 07-09-2010 02:36 AM

Theres goes his legacy. Him winning one won't matter. Just like Garnett winning one in boston didn't matter because he wasn't the man, Paul Pierce was. If they make it to the finals, how will it look when wade gets the finals MVP each and every time. Just like Shaq did with the lakers, and jordan with the bulls, and now Kobe. These people will go down as the greatest of all time. Lebron had that chance had he stayed in cleveland, or gone to any other team. Not anymore. I hope this causes his merchandise and brand to suffer tremendously.

Eulogy 07-09-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3633383)
People go to games. People go out before and after games. You think people did not go out prior to this? You think Clevelanders would never exit their shanties were it not for their basketball team games?

People buy sports team apparel from local businesses. And I suppose those people would be unable to sell regular clothing?

Eulogy, Eulogy, Eulogy... You're moving the same money around in the same city. The point of an attraction like a successful sports team is to bring other people into a city so it can grow. But Cleveland's such a desolate hellscape that nobody's going to move there purely for the sake of seeing a basketball team win a game. If anything, Cleveland would make more money through attracting new money by selling their team and using the money to repair their streets.

holy god you say some dumbass shit

i mean jesus christ nobody moves to a fucking city because of a goddamn sports team. this is just mindblowingly stupid. i like you and all but i'm really just shocked at how imperceptive and wrong you can be.

Eulogy 07-09-2010 10:45 AM

Also, I think LeBron has a unique and awful blend of arrogance and insecurity. He went to Miami because he doesn't want to have a team on his shoulders.

Whatever. They'll still lose to the Lakers.

Debaser 07-09-2010 11:12 AM

jesus christ this thread

Debaser 07-09-2010 11:13 AM

i don't think lebron is any more douchey than half the opinions here.

Eulogy 07-09-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaser (Post 3633542)
i don't think lebron is any more douchey than half the opinions here.

rolleyes

also thanks for the contribution

duovamp 07-09-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3633534)
holy god you say some dumbass shit

i mean jesus christ nobody moves to a fucking city because of a goddamn sports team. this is just mindblowingly stupid. i like you and all but i'm really just shocked at how imperceptive and wrong you can be.

So how does a basketball team make a city like Cleveland money?

Debaser 07-09-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3633544)
rolleyes

also thanks for the contribution

that's what i'm here for

Debaser 07-09-2010 11:30 AM

if only this board had better contributions. i'm just here to set an example of what not to do

Eulogy 07-09-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3633549)
So how does a basketball team make a city like Cleveland money?

41 games a year. 20,000 people being out in the city who might not otherwise have anything to do in the city.

goddamn it, are you serious?

not to mention added excitement and activity that comes with playoff appearances. this is as epic as your ideas regarding mandating productive activity by individuals in a free society.

duovamp 07-09-2010 11:35 AM

I guess I'm just not simple-minded enough to believe that the only way Clevelanders do things at night is because a basketball team is playing.

Eulogy 07-09-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3633554)
I guess I'm just not simple-minded enough to believe that the only way Clevelanders do things at night is because a basketball team is playing.

that's not what i'm fucking saying. holy jesus.

duovamp 07-09-2010 11:39 AM

Eulogy I think I could troll you about ANYTHING.

Eulogy 07-09-2010 11:40 AM

yes i tend to respond whenever people say things i think are stupid

hnibos 07-09-2010 11:41 AM

i gave duovamp enough respect to know he wasnt being serious

(youre not being serious right?)

duovamp 07-09-2010 11:42 AM

I was being quite serious about this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3633216)
That moon cricket just wanted to treat a white person like shit.


hnibos 07-09-2010 11:44 AM

well thats obvious

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 12:30 AM

While everyone shoots period blood out of their pussies about this whole situation...we are partying it up down here in SO FLA.


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TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 12:51 AM

I'm a Rockets fan btw so I'm basically just going to be a bandwagon Heat fan because I moved here, I really admired the Heat championship a few years back (fuck Dallas), I like Lebron's game, and D-Wayde is one of the classiest guys around...but this whole situation is fucking ridiculous. I'll try to list why:

-Lebron's leaving Cleveland. So fucking what, he was there for 7 years (an eternity in the modern professional sports world), and didn't feel strongly enough about the the organization to stay. Kobe would have left LA if they didn't get Gasol (Cavs never got anyone even close to Gasol). The Jordan-Pistons comparisons are stupid...Chicago did what they needed to make the team a winner.

-The letter from the GM is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Who would wanna play for this GM after a schizo freak-out like that? Even all the Cleveland fans are calling him delusional. It's like, hey if you think Lebron's such a quitter, why did you want to resign him so fucking bad? Why do you want a quitter on your team? It's obvious there wasn't a good relationship between Lebron and this team's management, so I don't blame the guy for bailing. Also the letter was in COMIC SANS. Seriously, the Cavs GM is an idiot piece of shit.

-People bitch about him not being competitive and making a "super team." People would find a reason to bitch about him doing anything but staying in Cleveland. Put yourself in Lebron's situation. You're a 25 year old dude...why the fuck would you NOT want to go play with your best friends on a kick-ass team? How could he pass up an opportunity like that? Chicago was really the only other option (Knicks Nets Clippers SUCK ASS for various reasons), although they just CANNED their coach (many say unfairly) after a disappointing season, he'd be weighed down by the Jordan bullshit, and his pals from the Olympic team D-Wade and Bosh aren't there. People always bitch about athletes doing it for the money...well here's a guy who's taking a big pay cut to be as competitive and happy as possible.

-People bitching about "The Decision" program: 1. It made MILLIONS for a good cause 2. If you actually watched it, it wasn't some Egofest, just your typical ESPN analysts doing their thing, and a pretty laid-back Lebron answering some questions (questioner was kind of a moron but Lebron didn't write the fucking questions). There were no fucking pyrotechnics. Aren't we all immune to to hype in sports at this point? Has Lebron EVER giving a flying fuck about what people think about his ego?

-Shouldn't most NBA fans who aren't from Cleveland or one of the other stood-up markets think this is a good thing for entertaining basketball? It will be interesting to see what happens with this team. Last time I checked, the NBA was about watching entertaining games on TV.

I could go on and on but Christ who gives a fuck. IT'S FUCKING SPORTS PEOPLE.

WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA

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TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 12:58 AM

Also Lebron needed to get his mama as far away as possible from Delonte West.

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 02:00 AM

Both are a better than Pippen though. If anything Bosh is Pippen.

Looks like Heat are making a play for Fisher. Haslem and Mike Miller might be a done deal.

My question is, are they going to use Pittman (TX!!) in the middle or go for a more established big?

Eulogy 07-10-2010 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 3633672)
I'm a Rockets fan btw so I'm basically just going to be a bandwagon Heat fan because I moved here, I really admired the Heat championship a few years back (fuck Dallas), I like Lebron's game, and D-Wayde is one of the classiest guys around...but this whole situation is fucking ridiculous. I'll try to list why:

-Lebron's leaving Cleveland. So fucking what, he was there for 7 years (an eternity in the modern professional sports world), and didn't feel strongly enough about the the organization to stay. Kobe would have left LA if they didn't get Gasol (Cavs never got anyone even close to Gasol). The Jordan-Pistons comparisons are stupid...Chicago did what they needed to make the team a winner.

-The letter from the GM is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Who would wanna play for this GM after a schizo freak-out like that? Even all the Cleveland fans are calling him delusional. It's like, hey if you think Lebron's such a quitter, why did you want to resign him so fucking bad? Why do you want a quitter on your team? It's obvious there wasn't a good relationship between Lebron and this team's management, so I don't blame the guy for bailing. Also the letter was in COMIC SANS. Seriously, the Cavs GM is an idiot piece of shit.

-People bitch about him not being competitive and making a "super team." People would find a reason to bitch about him doing anything but staying in Cleveland. Put yourself in Lebron's situation. You're a 25 year old dude...why the fuck would you NOT want to go play with your best friends on a kick-ass team? How could he pass up an opportunity like that? Chicago was really the only other option (Knicks Nets Clippers SUCK ASS for various reasons), although they just CANNED their coach (many say unfairly) after a disappointing season, he'd be weighed down by the Jordan bullshit, and his pals from the Olympic team D-Wade and Bosh aren't there. People always bitch about athletes doing it for the money...well here's a guy who's taking a big pay cut to be as competitive and happy as possible.

-People bitching about "The Decision" program: 1. It made MILLIONS for a good cause 2. If you actually watched it, it wasn't some Egofest, just your typical ESPN analysts doing their thing, and a pretty laid-back Lebron answering some questions (questioner was kind of a moron but Lebron didn't write the fucking questions). There were no fucking pyrotechnics. Aren't we all immune to to hype in sports at this point? Has Lebron EVER giving a flying fuck about what people think about his ego?

-Shouldn't most NBA fans who aren't from Cleveland or one of the other stood-up markets think this is a good thing for entertaining basketball? It will be interesting to see what happens with this team. Last time I checked, the NBA was about watching entertaining games on TV.

I could go on and on but Christ who gives a fuck. IT'S FUCKING SPORTS PEOPLE.

WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA WHA

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you actually buy the charity angle? lol ok.

your dismissal of chicago is essentially groundless. they got rid of a mediocre coach and brought in one of the best assistants in the league.

you can't talk about your "brand" and achieving some global superstardom status and then put your tail between your legs and run off to play second fiddle for a guy who already has a ring.

also, calling D-Wade (learn to spell his name before hopping on that bandwagon, dude) classy after he threw the Bulls organization under the bus, then met with them twice to feign interest, and claimed to make a decision based on what's best for his family while making it virtually impossible to gain custody of his children is... suspect.

I'm Hardcore 07-10-2010 03:29 AM

Heat this Heat that

get past Kobe and then we'll talk Heat

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3633702)
you actually buy the charity angle? lol ok.

your dismissal of chicago is essentially groundless. they got rid of a mediocre coach and brought in one of the best assistants in the league.

you can't talk about your "brand" and achieving some global superstardom status and then put your tail between your legs and run off to play second fiddle for a guy who already has a ring.

also, calling D-Wade (learn to spell his name before hopping on that bandwagon, dude) classy after he threw the Bulls organization under the bus, then met with them twice to feign interest, and claimed to make a decision based on what's best for his family while making it virtually impossible to gain custody of his children is... suspect.

-I'm not "buying" anything, just pointing out the fact that it raised millions for charity so why make a big fucking deal about it.

-I didn't just dismiss Chicago, I pointed out why they were clearly not a better option than Miami given the situation.

-You think he'll be ANY less of a global superstar? (villain or not...i.e. Kobe)

-Wade was spying for Riley...that's called strategy. :smoke:

Are you some Bulls homer or something?

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm Hardcore (Post 3633703)
this Heat

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I'm Hardcore 07-10-2010 03:59 AM

sickkkkkk

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 04:00 AM

Also Eulogy as far as I know Wade currently has custody of his kids so what are you talking about?

edit: actually yeah it looks like this is still yet to be determined but it looks like he has a good shot of getting them.


love this kid's WTF look
http://videos.brokencurve.com/003ccc...9a14068d4d.jpg

TuralyonW3 07-10-2010 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debaser (Post 3633542)
i don't think lebron is any more douchey than half the opinions here.

http://sijoeposnanski.files.wordpres...pg?w=300&h=361


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