bob dylan and, except a few tunes on rain dogs, tom waits.

the sex pistols just seem silly to me, as well.

elliott smith never seemed very special to me.

this.

i hate elliott smith's voice with a passion

samesies.

yeah i'm not into elliot smith. seems like i should be

yeah i think the reason I'm dismissive of nirvana lately is due to the legend of nirvana and not the actual music, though I wasn't really that into it even in its time. It was almost always SP SP SP SP SP. Also it might have to do with my awakening to the Pixies in the last few years.

come as you are is a great song, so is In Bloom. And they give a shout out to Leonard Cohen on In Utero, which is an album i never listened to that much and subsequently lost.

Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Dave Matthews Band

yeah i'm not into AiC or DMB either

I always thought Alice in Chains was the worst of the first wave of grunge bands.

i never really got into alice in chains until last year.

i don't think cobain had it in him to write anything more evolved than where he was when he died. they may have done an interesting thing here and there, but i really don't believe they would have "progressed."

i was more referring to the "grunge incarnate" thing. grunge was a made up mainstream media term that never meant anything, how can you even try to progress from there

also they did progress, just compare bleach and nevermind

i don't even like nirvana much your comment just seemed really stupid

nevermind was just really slick, bleach was not. if you want to call that progression, then knock yourself out.

nirvana became synonymous with "grunge" music, and i would just as quickly call mogwai "post-rock incarnate." mogwai is also a band that is never going to progress from what they are known for.

mainstream media and its terminology have a lot more sway than you're giving it credit for. to dismiss its influence -which is huge- is both wrongly idealistic and stubborn.

The Pixies
Pavement
My Bloody Valentine
The Velvet Underground

all ridiculously overrated imo

I like a few songs here and there with each of these bands but their overall output is meh to me

true, but what exactly do grunge bands have in common that it's possible to "progress" from? that they're mostly from washington state? i guess nirvana should have moved or something.

seriously grunge has to be the most nonsensical genre ever and especially when applied to nirvana who had pretty much nothing in common with the other big bands associated with it

Nihilist shut the fuck up already. you are NOT the king of music.

Indeed, I am.

throws stones

if i was to download just one Rolling Stones album, which would it be?

STICKY FUCKING FINGERS

Let it Bleed is my favorite.

i only wanted one but i'll check out both

ooh la la, hardcore, he talked italic to you. i wouldn't take that.

Yeah you are definitely not the king of music

most jazz except for coltrane