Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3523549)

kinda weak dude

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3149950)

Did you read the article? They're trying to NOT pay for everyone in England.

Also it's not just the taxes, it's that anything we let the government run is shit. Everything. You want hospitals that work like the DMV, by all means, let the government run them.

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern (Post 3150049)

suncrashesdown,

i think part of the problem is that our education system indoctrinates as opposed to educates about many things, in particular the issue of health care.

If health care is a right, then why not a House or a Dodge Viper?


Point is this with health care, there is no natural market flow to any of it. My step-mother is the Head Nurse at Stanford Hospital and occasionally we talk shop and I ask questions.

Just today I found out that if you're uninsured and you get a service that cost, say $5000, the hospital expects that money from you like yesterday. Meanwhile, that same procedure with the same cost to someone who has insurance, will be negotiated by the insurance company and the hospital and will be reduced to about $500 in which the individual would pay about 20% of that...and at that, the insurance company will be late in payments to the hospital, which perpetuates the policy of an inflated retail cost of procedures to the uninsured.

They're needs to be more natural retail cost to procedures, but that doesn't exist in the current system and won't exist in a Universal one either.

Even with insurance, if your provider doesn't have deals set-up with a certain lab that will run a test, you bare the brunt of the inflated cost because your provider doesn't have negotiating rights with that lab.

Originally Posted by jczeroman (Post 3524121)

Gah. There is much wisdom in the biblical proverb:

Ecclesiastes 10.12-15
The words of a wise man’s mouth are gracious,
But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up;
The words of his mouth begin with foolishness,
And the end of his talk is raving madness.
A fool also multiplies words.
No man knows what is to be;
Who can tell him what will be after him?
The labor of fools wearies them,
For they do not even know how to go to the city!

The point being that wasting my words on someone who doesn't care to hear, is not paying attention and has no desire to do anything but projectile-vomit out of his own foolery is wasteful and degrading. If he actually believed half of the similar tripe he wrote about me, he would have done the same thing. I have not shied away in the past about answering people for eleven pages of me/them exchanges if they are willing to contribute to a mutually beneficial searching of truth. But such an exchange with this guy at the present time has no redeeming value.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3524323)

good bet

i just cut a huge fart

seriously the smell is grossing me out and i usually don't mind my own farts

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3524323)

good bet

i just cut a huge fart

seriously the smell is grossing me out and i usually don't mind my own farts

Originally Posted by beef curtains (Post 3524222)

I doubt Trots is christian.

Originally Posted by beef curtains (Post 3524217)

If you are equating the drive of a DMV worker to the drive of a doctor, you are sorely confused about life.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3524833)

yeah don't ask why education costs so much

Originally Posted by jczeroman (Post 3524798)

Ecclesiastes was written by Jews.

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3524835)

Physician education is directly related to recouping those costs once one becomes a physician. I realize this is a difficult concept for you to grasp since it took you 7 years to get through your undergrad.

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3523551)

I'm an historian.

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3530655)

The Blue Dogs.

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3530744)

...who are included in that chart.

god you're stupid.

Originally Posted by Debaser (Post 3530932)

nimrod posting something from sully? that's definitely an upgrade from your typical sources. kudos.

Originally Posted by Future Boy (Post 3530962)

Is this the same Sully that insisted (insists?) Trig isnt Palins son.

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3530597)

Looks to me like they donate who whomever controls Congress