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Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:38 PM

eulogy
 
what do you think of the current state of nascar?

TuralyonW3 12-13-2007 10:46 PM

DEL

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:47 PM

i'll assume this is a serious thread and actually answer the question. if it's not, feel free to ignore.

I think the governing bodies are making severely misguided but well-intentioned changes to make it more appealing. What I don't understand is why they decided to make some of these rule changes at around the time of the sport's peak in popularity. They devised the stupid "Chase" playoff format in the hopes that they'd be able to build interest in the end of the season and compete with the NFL. They will never compete with the NFL. It's stupid to make such a drastic change like that. Gordon's 2007 season is a perfect example of how flawed this system is. This isn't a sport that is comparable to other sports that have playoff systems. Every other form of racing used a points system that was at least theoretically modeled in the same way as the old NASCAR points system. It makes more sense the old way, if you ask me.

The Car of Tomorrow is going through growing pains. but people really shouldn't complain about it. I am reasonably confident that no one will ever die as a result of a crash in a nextel cup car now that all these safety improvements have been made. They'll make it more competitive and make it behave better over the long run. But the safety measures needed to be taken as soon as possible.

ummm, i think that's all i have to say from a general standpoint.

Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:50 PM

i like all sports (except hockey and soccer and most U.K. oddities) but i still can't get into nascar =\

Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:50 PM

isn't it all pre-decided anyways practically?

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonrey
isn't it all pre-decided anyways practically?

no? wtf?

hnibos 12-13-2007 10:53 PM

eulogy what do youliek about nascar, im an absolute sports fanatic but nascar has never done it for me

Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:53 PM

well i have nothing more to say on this subject, i honestly thought i could get an interesting conversation about nascar going

DeviousJ 12-13-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy
They devised the stupid "Chase" playoff format in the hopes that they'd be able to build interest in the end of the season and compete with the NFL. They will never compete with the NFL. It's stupid to make such a drastic change like that.

I don't know what this is, but now I'm imagining two teams of cars driving at each other on a to-scale football field, firing a giant ball around with mounted catapults. I'd watch that, it sounds pretty awesome

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonrey
well i have nothing more to say on this subject, i honeslty thought i could get an interesting conversation about nascar going

why do you think it's predetermined?

Nimrod's Son 12-13-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonrey
i like all sports (except hockey and soccer and most U.K. oddities) but i still can't get into nascar =\

NASCAR isn't a sport

Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:55 PM

the order of all 42 cars at the start of the very first race

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hnibos
eulogy what do youliek about nascar, im an absolute sports fanatic but nascar has never done it for me

i don't really know. i just find it all immensely entertaining. the key is finding someone to latch on to and root for.

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonrey
the order of all 42 cars at the start of the very first race

it's 43 cars. and the order in the daytona 500 is set by finishing order of two qualifying races. the rest of the lineups for the year are set by qualifying sessions held on the friday before the race. and it is legal for guys to pass each other on the track under a green flag....

Tonrey 12-13-2007 10:56 PM

i'll give it that i can be interesting in very small time periods, say 5 laps tops, but any more then that is just too much. i can't understand how people can watch 500 some laps of this stuff

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonrey
i'll give it that i can be interesting in very small time periods, say 5 laps tops, but any more then that is just too much. i can't understand how people can watch 500 some laps of this stuff

i can understand how it can be boring at points to a lot of people. i mean, i fall asleep during the races sometimes. and some tracks seem to always put on boring races (two 500-mile races at Pocono over the span of 2 months is just awful). but i even enjoy watching the races that i would consider to be boring from an objective standpoint.

Eulogy 12-13-2007 10:59 PM

...and the last 4 or 5 laps at restrictor plate tracks (daytona and talladega) are as entertaining as anything you will find in the world of sports. there is no doubt in my mind about that.

Tonrey 12-13-2007 11:00 PM

you make it sound like a chore to watch, at least at some points.

Eulogy 12-13-2007 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonrey
you make it sound like a chore to watch, at least at some points.

it isn't for me, but i understand why it could be for some people.

stripes 12-13-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy
i'll assume this is a serious thread and actually answer the question. if it's not, feel free to ignore.

I think the governing bodies are making severely misguided but well-intentioned changes to make it more appealing. What I don't understand is why they decided to make some of these rule changes at around the time of the sport's peak in popularity. They devised the stupid "Chase" playoff format in the hopes that they'd be able to build interest in the end of the season and compete with the NFL. They will never compete with the NFL. It's stupid to make such a drastic change like that. Gordon's 2007 season is a perfect example of how flawed this system is. This isn't a sport that is comparable to other sports that have playoff systems. Every other form of racing used a points system that was at least theoretically modeled in the same way as the old NASCAR points system. It makes more sense the old way, if you ask me.

The Car of Tomorrow is going through growing pains. but people really shouldn't complain about it. I am reasonably confident that no one will ever die as a result of a crash in a nextel cup car now that all these safety improvements have been made. They'll make it more competitive and make it behave better over the long run. But the safety measures needed to be taken as soon as possible.

ummm, i think that's all i have to say from a general standpoint.

I didn't think Nascar could sound so intelligent

Eulogy 12-13-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stripes
I didn't think Nascar could sound so intelligent

the men behind the scenes of competitive NASCAR teams are incredibly intelligent. it's a complicated sport.


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