joining together to fight global warming
 

like herding cats.

AND FUCK THE UNITED STATES. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING NOT WANTING ANY DEFINITIVE TARGETS FOR REDUCTION OF CARBON DIOXIDE.

i haven't had a problem with the iraq war, the disastrous health insurance system or anything else but this affects me personally. god damn idiots. if you guys vote for another bushlike individual i will kill myself and take you down with me.

we are playing russian roulette with our planet. to quote craig venter. we're all going to hell.

new rules: no more hummers, jeeps, limosines, private jets, yachts. those should all be forbidden outright. a certain limit to gallons/mile of any car that can be used. higher taxes on meat production, especially meat that is produced by animals that emits a lot of methane. the united states should start getting a decent mass transportation system. the united states should stop sucking and being evil. all people in the united states should be shot if they don't comply.

money should be taken from the west to help developing countries get energy from nuclear power. no more destruction of big forest areas in said developing contries. give money. plant more forests. plant a big forest on russia.

there should be a limit to how many miles a person can fly per year. if the limit is crossed, the person must start paying taxes that are then used to plant and preserve forests and to develop new techniques for reducing carbon dioxide emission. there get going you fucking assholes.

Let me guess you smoked meth for the first time tonight.

this is what i'm talking about. we're all doomed

lold @ plant a big forest on russia

Absolutely.

If you want to have an honest discussion. What the hell will taxing beef do?

Raise the price.

fuck global warming.

soon greenland will melt and forests will grow in the antartic.

maybe the extra forests in the antartic will even out the logging and pollution?

i'm sure if any more forests grow it won't be long before they're sold and stripped

i just spoke to my father over the phone. he's in umeå for a bussiness meeting that will take 1 hour, he flew there (it's about 1000 km) and will fly back. they could have had a video conferance but the client wanted them to be there and since they've got competitors, they have to do whatever the clients tells them. this is usually a pretty good system but in this case IT FAILS AND WE NEED LAWS

Im all for conservation. but fuck global warming. trust me. its the biggest scam since vietnam

MILANKOVITCH CYCLE! PERIGLACIAL! FUCK OFF GORE YOU COCKASS

you must be a dickhead then.

what makes you think so?

My problem is with the idiotic green movement. I was watching this new show about eco friendly inventors. In one segment they are painting a roof white to counteract the heat island effect in cities, 20 minutes later they are putting up black solar panels on a roof to save energy.

bingooo

That's it?

i didn't know that vietnam was such a global scientific scam.

yeah, that comparison was a bit weird

but yeah, milankovitch cycle fo rizzeal

I think we've done this before, but ok... I'll make it simple for you.

the earth, a big swirling maelstrom of random cause and effect gases and micro-climates

the sun, a fucking great big massive pulsating ball of fucking gas!

trust fucking humanity with all our delusions of grandeur to accredit ourselves with the ability to destroy our own planet, while at the same time a giant ball of gas in the sky is overlooked as one of the main variable factors in the change of our climate.
We arent destroying the planet through CO2 emissions, if anything it is the destruction of the worlds forests, alongside the quite striking amount of fertiliser used to grow our crops, that is causing the most damage and acidification of the sea.

the human effect on global warming is an uncertainty, it cant be proven with so many potential variables. For god's sake, cant we please tackle the issues which we know are our fault before we go dicking around trying to change something that quite frankly isnt an immediate priority.

Again they are using scare tactics for economic motives and needs. I know it sounds wanky and lefty, but really, in a world with scarce fossil fuel, there needs to be some justification found somewhere for its control.



I dont know why i said vietnam. :noway:

seriously, i cant think of anything else that annoys me more than this. Granted, there are valid arguments for both sides, but 90% of the time it is idiots on a bandwagon that dick me off with ignorant ill informed opinions.

anyway. sorry, carry on.

I'm unclear what exactly you are saying.

global warming is or isn't happening?

global warming isn't the fault of humanity so we shouldn't worry about it?

global warming: no biggie.

global warming alarmist are using scare tactics for economic motives? what?

Sorry, i was ranting. Let me be rational here.

Global warming is currently happening, but this is perfectly natural to happen! The climate of the earth moves in cycles, or glacial periods. hot to cold, then cold to hot. every.... 10,000 years or so (with small fluctuations, did you know the river Thames froze over in the 1600's?)

To confidently attribute the effects of excessive global warming to humanity is absurd when you consider all the random variables present in the climate. Particularly that of the chaotic weather patterns and the quite trule staggering power of the sun. (Check out stuff like the milankovitch cycle here http://www.homepage.montana.edu/~geo...1/milankov.htm)

Global warming is not really significant when we sit up and notice all the other fucked up shit we are doing to the planet, things that will get us waaaaay before this will.