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MrPantyFAce 10-17-2007 07:02 PM

Bush: 'World War III' possible if Iran goes nuclear
 
WASHINGTON — U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War III as he tried to shore up international opposition to Tehran amid Russian skepticism over its nuclear ambitions.

Mr. Bush was speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has resisted Western pressure to toughen his stance over Iran's nuclear program, made clear on a visit to Tehran that Russia would not accept any military action against Iran.

At a White House news conference, Mr. Bush expressed hope Mr. Putin would brief him on his talks in Tehran and said he would ask him to clarify recent remarks on Iran's nuclear activities.

Mr. Putin said last week that Russia, which is building Iran's first atomic power plant, would "proceed from the position" that Tehran had no plans to develop nuclear weapons but he shared international concerns that its nuclear programs "should be as transparent as possible."

Mr. Bush, who has insisted he wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian issue, is pushing for a third round of United Nations sanctions against Iran.

Russia, a veto-holding member of the Security Council, backed two sets of limited UN sanctions against Iran but has resisted any tough new measures.

Stepping up his rhetoric, Mr. Bush said a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "dangerous threat to world peace."

"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," he said. "So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

Iran rejects accusations it is seeking to develop a nuclear bomb, saying it wants nuclear technology for peaceful civilian purposes such as power generation, and has refused to heed UN Security Council demands to halt sensitive uranium enrichment.

Chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani was quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency on Wednesday as saying that Mr. Putin had delivered a "special message" on its atomic program and other issues. No other details were given.

Mr. Putin's visit on Tuesday was watched closely because of Moscow's possible leverage in the Islamic Republic's nuclear standoff with the West. It was the first time a Kremlin chief went to Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943.

Asked about Mr. Putin's "special message," U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he was not aware of any deal or offer put forward by Moscow to Tehran over the nuclear program.

On Russian opposition to Caspian Sea states being used to launch attacks against Iran, Mr. Casey reiterated that Mr. Bush kept all his options on the table but that the United States was committed to the diplomatic path with Tehran.

iran having :nuke: will lead to :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

WeilandFan 10-17-2007 07:05 PM

Let's just nuke em and be done with it.

RopeyLopey 10-17-2007 07:12 PM

I wonder if Bush is also regularly briefing Putin about his agenda

exactlythesame 10-17-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPantyFAce
iran having :nuke: will lead to :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

you put it more succinctly than bush ever could

Mayfuck 10-17-2007 07:25 PM

Absolute unfounded fearmongering.

I cannot wait until Jan 2009. (Unless Giulani is elected)

redbull 10-17-2007 07:28 PM

^^ concurred

exactlythesame 10-17-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayfuck
(Unless Giulani is elected)

shudder

DeviousJ 10-17-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayfuck
Absolute unfounded fearmongering.

I cannot wait until Jan 2009. (Unless Giulani is elected)

I hope Iran waits, Bush is making me nervous

sans anatomy 10-17-2007 10:01 PM

It's a catch 22. Even if Iran really doesn't have nuclear weapons, the Bush Administration will find a way to convince enough people that they do. It worked 4 years ago. Iraq is obviously a complete disaster, but it hasn't fundamentally disrupted daily American life to prevent a similar lead-up to war from happening twice.

TicalFSU 10-18-2007 03:43 PM

Funny how Putins trip was delayed by a death/asassination threat. Cui bono?

Here is a follow up article.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...4IB8UT3b4LVkoA

commando 10-18-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayfuck
Absolute unfounded fearmongering.

I cannot wait until Jan 2009. (Unless Giulani is elected)

I know, right? Iran would never do anything to harm Israel.

sans anatomy 10-18-2007 04:31 PM

Ooh, those poor defenseless Jews.

TuralyonW3 10-18-2007 05:11 PM

why don't this asshole SHUT HIS FUCKING COCKSUCKING MOUTH

TicalFSU 10-18-2007 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commando
I know, right? Iran would never do anything to harm Israel.

The israeli government brings it upon itself, if feel for its citizens. We have the same problem in the US. The government is not representative of its peoples true feelings.

Muslims dont have a problem with jews because of their religion, maybe some extremists on the right, but not the majority. The israeli government is imperialistic and treats the Palestinians like dogs; be it a grandmother, mother or child. Most Jews probably dont agree with this treatment either, if they really are god-fearing. Iran would like a government in that area that respects and welcomes all people (except gays apparently). Iran has jews and christians that live there peacefully.

Iran also disagrees with the creation of israel; as the reason it was founded in the first place is questionable. They dont want all jews to leave the area, maybe return land they stole from people, but racism/bigotry is not the foundation of their desire.

sans anatomy 10-18-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3
why don't this asshole SHUT HIS FUCKING COCKSUCKING MOUTH

Was that aimed at me? I hope not. I was just quoting the theme from "Gaza"

WeilandFan 10-18-2007 07:03 PM

You'd rather have Hilary as President? Jesus.

TuralyonW3 10-18-2007 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sans anatomy
Was that aimed at me? I hope not. I was just quoting the theme from "Gaza"

no it was aimed at W

Nimrod's Son 10-18-2007 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeilandFan
You'd rather have Hilary as President? Jesus.

or Obama?

Hillary scares me in that she understands the issues but has always been interested in the glorification of herself and to outshine her philandering hubby.

Obama scares me because he doesn't even understand the issues.

sans anatomy 10-18-2007 07:51 PM

He doesn't? I haven't been watching the debates, but every time I've seen Obama on CNN or whatever (saw him on Larry King Live a while back) he seems highly, highly informed. In fact, he strikes me as a little too dry with factual information, he seems to lack a bit of warmth when he's doing talking points and I nod off a bit.

Also, he is black, and unfortunately that means he can't win a general election for president in the United States in 2008. Sorry. I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but there is a long history of racial tension in this country, and it hasn't been fully resolved yet.

Hillary seems like an evil bitch to me, and she would have a helluva time winning an election as well. (varied and obvious reasons I won't evne bother with)

I like John Edwards because he is harmless and pretty. His wife probably kicks between now and Nov 08 and he gets a huge boost in polls from the sympathy vote.

Anyone but a Republican really.. I don't care. Will the Republicans actually look past Rudi's pro-choice/pro-gay/pro-crossdressing ways and put him up there as the nominee, just because he was the mayor on 9/11? Do the Republicans really trust that they can keep riding that 9/11 wave like they did in 04, wholly ignoring fuck up after fuck up perpetrated by the Bush Administration?

IWishIWasBlank 10-18-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeilandFan
Let's just nuke em and be done with it.

I hope you mean president Bush and his posse.

The Omega Concern 10-18-2007 10:13 PM

there's been a strong D.C. insider rumour that Cheney's neck is on the line in terms of attacking Iran, he's on orders and those orders aint necessarily coming from Bush.

that and with the IMF saying the U.S. dollar is undervalued creates this confluence of events which impact on each other; Oil and the currency it's bought in (U.S. dollars) were the reason Iraq was started. Saddam was threatening to convert to Euro's, something other nations are doing now regardless of the war. And this devaluation of the dollar is scary because it seems to be manufactored largely by big corporations with no allegiance to flags or countries and a particular thirst to make the U.S. an economic Portugal or Mexico: No middle class.

Halliburton as one of these companies is a prime suspect, which leads back to Cheney in the case of Iraq, but actually, you could name 97% of the politicians the last 20 years and say they've sold out to mega corporate lobbyist at the expense of the middle class amurrican.

so...

more cynical minds than I have said we will attack Iran to continue the destruction of America's good standing in this world which will make it easier to introduce the Amero as the new currency for Canada, Mexico and the U.S.A. and generally dissolve borders into mere symbols and cut out the sovereignty essentially. It's as much a psy-ops play of the Globalist as anything else as they continue to play out this freak show game of Risk.

Starla 10-19-2007 02:14 AM

Mr. Putin to Bush: "Fuck you"

werideatdusk 10-19-2007 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern
there's been a strong D.C. insider rumour that Cheney's neck is on the line in terms of attacking Iran, he's on orders and those orders aint necessarily coming from Bush.

that and with the IMF saying the U.S. dollar is undervalued creates this confluence of events which impact on each other; Oil and the currency it's bought in (U.S. dollars) were the reason Iraq was started. Saddam was threatening to convert to Euro's, something other nations are doing now regardless of the war. And this devaluation of the dollar is scary because it seems to be manufactored largely by big corporations with no allegiance to flags or countries and a particular thirst to make the U.S. an economic Portugal or Mexico: No middle class.

Halliburton as one of these companies is a prime suspect, which leads back to Cheney in the case of Iraq, but actually, you could name 97% of the politicians the last 20 years and say they've sold out to mega corporate lobbyist at the expense of the middle class amurrican.

so...

more cynical minds than I have said we will attack Iran to continue the destruction of America's good standing in this world which will make it easier to introduce the Amero as the new currency for Canada, Mexico and the U.S.A. and generally dissolve borders into mere symbols and cut out the sovereignty essentially. It's as much a psy-ops play of the Globalist as anything else as they continue to play out this freak show game of Risk.

uhhh youve been watching too much "X-Files." Not that I don't love "X-Files."

Wiki tells me he already changed to Euros in 2000. I don't doubt that oil was behind the invasion, but this whole massive globalist conspiracy theory... its a little nuts. It's tempting to believe something like that but too many people would need be involved and something would have come out by now.

Ugly 10-19-2007 04:36 AM

Dear God, please let Bush and the psychopaths who control him out of the White House before they start another pointless war.

Sincerely,
99.8% of the population of the world.

JokeyLoki 10-19-2007 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly
Dear God, please let Bush and the psychopaths who control him out of the White House before they start another pointless war.

Sincerely,
99.8% of the population of the world.

To add to this:

Please don't let Iran actually get nukes and do something stupid. (C'mon, the guy is a nutball, it's entirely possible)

The Omega Concern 10-19-2007 04:45 PM

Quote:

originally posted by weariditdusk: uhhh youve been watching too much "X-Files." Not that I don't love "X-Files."

Wiki tells me he already changed to Euros in 2000. I don't doubt that oil was behind the invasion, but this whole massive globalist conspiracy theory... its a little nuts. It's tempting to believe something like that but too many people would need be involved and something would have come out by now.
The facts are telling. And the speculation I've heard since N.A.F.T.A. about a 3 region economic world system seemed a little too "out there" for me some 10 years ago...but it's right in our face now.

The Omega Concern 10-19-2007 07:12 PM

Bush talks up WWWIII and Putin matches the rhetoric. I just hope it's all still rhetoric and that the letters to Jews in Iran about getting out of there is just rumour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wputin119.xml

Nimrod's Son 10-19-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sans anatomy
Anyone but a Republican really.. I don't care. Will the Republicans actually look past Rudi's pro-choice/pro-gay/pro-crossdressing ways and put him up there as the nominee, just because he was the mayor on 9/11? Do the Republicans really trust that they can keep riding that 9/11 wave like they did in 04, wholly ignoring fuck up after fuck up perpetrated by the Bush Administration?

so you're anti-rudy because he's pro-choice/pro-gay/pro-crossdressing? that's awfully intolerant of you.

Nimrod's Son 10-19-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern
The facts are telling. And the speculation I've heard since N.A.F.T.A. about a 3 region economic world system seemed a little too "out there" for me some 10 years ago...but it's right in our face now.

it's easier to combine 3 into 1 than it is a hundred into 1

MrPantyFAce 10-19-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern
Bush talks up WWWIII and Putin matches the rhetoric. I just hope it's all still rhetoric and that the letters to Jews in Iran about getting out of there is just rumour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wputin119.xml

oh oh, spegettios...

ron paul is the last chance for this planet. he's against this aggressive militarism and nafta. when he loses i will see all hope is lost and become a freedom fighter.

sans anatomy 10-19-2007 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son
so you're anti-rudy because he's pro-choice/pro-gay/pro-crossdressing? that's awfully intolerant of you.


please shut the fuck up. i dont care how many posts you have.

Väinämöinen 10-20-2007 11:39 AM

they should build a machine that would nuke iran and north korea if either of them developed nukes or if anyone tried to disarm the machine. then we coudl stop worrying about these things

sans anatomy 10-20-2007 12:17 PM

They tried something like that once. It didn't turn out too well.


http://www.helena-sandberg.com/blog/...ove-763806.jpg

Väinämöinen 10-20-2007 12:19 PM

that movie was awful minus the few small parts with doctor strangelove, which remain at the top end of the "jews bashing germany" genre of comedy

sans anatomy 10-20-2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Väinämöinen
that movie was awful minus the few small parts with doctor strangelove, which remain at the top end of the "jews bashing germany" genre of comedy

no, it wasn't, but I can see why you might think that

<sp3 10-20-2007 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Väinämöinen
that movie was awful minus the few small parts with doctor strangelove, which remain at the top end of the "jews bashing germany" genre of comedy


that movie was great, actually.

GlasgowKiss 10-20-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by < sp3
that movie was great, actually.

Please, i know the movie is great, but you saying its great is going to make people who havent seen it think its shit.

Professor Fox 10-20-2007 04:02 PM

WII led to suffragettes and feminists. I think America should start working at sweeping the enemy within back under the carpet.

JokeyLoki 10-20-2007 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPantyFAce

ron paul is the last chance for this planet.

lol

<sp3 10-21-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss
Please, i know the movie is great, but you saying its great is going to make people who havent seen it think its shit.


well that was completely uncalled for


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