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Mayonaise 06-13-2002 06:56 PM

would you father a lesbian couples baby?
 
this only applies to boys

Vacancy 06-13-2002 06:58 PM

no. hell no.

Ghetto_Squirrel 06-13-2002 07:01 PM

Sure, if they returned the favor by being a surrogate.

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-Tragedy- 06-13-2002 07:01 PM

[guy]
only if they were hot lesbians.
[/guy]

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:01 PM

any reason for that?
(edit) In response to: No. Hell no.(edit)

[This message has been edited by Mayonaise (edited 06-13-2002).]

Vacancy 06-13-2002 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:
any reason for that?

yea. the same reason you wouldn't want to sleep with me.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vacancy:
yea. the same reason you wouldn't want to sleep with me.

huh?


Vacancy 06-13-2002 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:
Quote:

Originally posted by Vacancy:
yea. the same reason you wouldn't want to sleep with me.
huh?


i just wouldn't want to.

Altezano 06-13-2002 07:12 PM

Yeah, If they would put on a show. And they didn't drive harleys.

Vacancy 06-13-2002 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Altezano:
Yeah, If they would put on a show. And they didn't drive harleys.

you don't drive a harley numbskull

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Altezano:
Yeah, If they would put on a show. And they didn't drive harleys.

I'm serious. Somebody give a a serious answer.

Julio, tell me why you wouldn't.


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:17 PM

No. I don't think it's a great situation for children to have two parents of the same gender.

...but my opinion on this could probably be easily changed.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
No. I don't think it's a great situation for children to have two parents of the same gender.

...but my opinion on this could probably be easily changed.

I think having two mothers is far better than having one!
I know for sure that after my dad left things would have been easier on everybody if Mum (mom) had had more support even if it was from another Woman


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:
I think having two mothers is far better than having one!
I know for sure that after my dad left things would have been easier on everybody if Mum (mom) had had more support even if it was from another Woman



...but some fathers are actually good. I think a good father and a good mother is much better than two good mothers or whatever.

And just think about it...do you think kids these days would just let that situation slide? The child would be ridiculed so much...I don't even want to think about it. And also, you'd be the kid's biological father, but you wouldn't really be one of their parents...you know what I'm saying?

Undone 06-13-2002 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
No. I don't think it's a great situation for children to have two parents of the same gender.

...but my opinion on this could probably be easily changed.

I'm glad it could be easily changed as it's a rather stupid opinion.


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undone:
I'm glad it could be easily changed as it's a rather stupid opinion.


It would be nice if you could tell me why.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:

...but some fathers are actually good. I think a good father and a good mother is much better than two good mothers or whatever.

And just think about it...do you think kids these days would just let that situation slide? The child would be ridiculed so much...I don't even want to think about it. And also, you'd be the kid's biological father, but you wouldn't really be one of their parents...you know what I'm saying?

Yeah of course.
I just think a lesbian couple could raise some pretty amazing children.
It would almost be perfect if school kids weren't so nasty. By the way i plan on home schooling my children but thats another thread.


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:

Yeah of course.
I just think a lesbian couple could raise some pretty amazing children.
It would almost be perfect if school kids weren't so nasty. By the way i plan on home schooling my children but thats another thread.



I'm not a fan of home schooling either...but anyway...

I'm sure two women could raise great kids...but I think it's important (but not necessarily necessary) to have strong feminie and masculine influences.

Ghetto_Squirrel 06-13-2002 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
do you think kids these days would just let that situation slide? The child would be ridiculed so much...I don't even want to think about it.

Maybe so, but a couple of narrow-minded future schoolmates shouldn't deter a couple from having a child if that's what they really want. Tolerance and acceptance isn't going to come by sitting around on your ass.

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Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel:
Maybe so, but a couple of narrow-minded future schoolmates shouldn't deter a couple from having a child if that's what they really want. Tolerance and acceptance isn't going to come by sitting around on your ass.



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Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel:
Maybe so, but a couple of narrow-minded future schoolmates shouldn't deter a couple from having a child if that's what they really want. Tolerance and acceptance isn't going to come by sitting around on your ass.



a couple? I can't imagine how awful things would be for me if I had same-sex parents.

Maybe kids would eentually accept it...but I really don't see that happening.

Maybe the people I'm surrounded by are just abnormally intolerant.

Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel:
Maybe so, but a couple of narrow-minded future schoolmates shouldn't deter a couple from having a child if that's what they really want.


Also, it's not about what the parents want. It's all about the child.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:


Maybe the people I'm surrounded by are just abnormally intolerant.

yeah probably


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undone:
I'm glad it could be easily changed as it's a rather stupid opinion.



Oh, and I never said it would be a horrible thing to have two women raise a child. I just think it's better to have one good mother and one good father.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:

Oh, and I never said it would be a horrible thing to have two women raise a child. I just think it's better to have one good mother and one good father.

i know it's just me but i don't believe that exists

and i turned out okay (cough) even though my dad wasn't always around
and honestly i think i'm a stronger person for having to go though the whole divorse thing at the age of 9, having my heart broken etc etc etc


but then my Dad is a good father he just wasn't such a great husband

Altezano 06-13-2002 07:50 PM

Ask David Crosby.

Mayonaise 06-13-2002 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Altezano:
Ask David Crosby.

who?


Eulogy 06-13-2002 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:

who?


Father of Melissa Etheridge and whatshername's baby.


Eulogy 06-13-2002 08:01 PM

...and the "C" in CSNY.

Ghetto_Squirrel 06-13-2002 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
Also, it's not about what the parents want. It's all about the child.

Certainly you don't want to put a kid into a hostile situation, but harassment at school isn't the worst thing that could happen to someone. It would probably even change some minds, though that's not to advocate having kids in an attempt to change mainstream opinion.

You can't really control the environment, because that kind of ignorance toward homosexual couples is probably going to be everywhere, but you can at least fulfill your obligation to provide a safe and loving home for the kid.

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Mayonaise 06-13-2002 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
Father of Melissa Etheridge and whatshername's baby.


ohhhhh


Stupid&Contagious 06-13-2002 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Tragedy-:
[guy]
only if they were hot lesbians.
[/guy]


Mayonaise 06-13-2002 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel:


You can't really control the environment, because that kind of ignorance toward homosexual couples is probably going to be everywhere, but you can at least fulfill your obligation to provide a safe and loving home for the kid.


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exactly


DeviousJ 06-13-2002 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayonaise:
this only applies to boys

That is so sexist. Why can't a girl father a lesbian couple's baby? http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/mad.gif

And to answer your question, I don't know. It's not something I've thought about. But it's not a question of same-sex parents, it's a question of being involved in a pregnancy which ultimately wouldn't involve me at all. *muses*

Ghetto_Squirrel 06-13-2002 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeviousJ:
Why can't a girl father a lesbian couple's baby?

I think it's time your parents gave you the birds and the bees talk.

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Mayonaise 06-13-2002 08:31 PM

what if you fathered the child and the child knew you were the father etc etc and you brought the child presents and stuff but it lived with 2 mums? or would that be a little too confusing!? DAMMIT OPRAH WE NEED YOUR HELP

DeviousJ 06-13-2002 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel:
I think it's time your parents gave you the birds and the bees talk.


There's only one thing worse than not getting a joke, and that's trying to make that same joke 2 seconds later

Lie 06-13-2002 09:40 PM

The whole gays having kids is a difficult issue for me, because of course I think it's okay, but I don't like the idea of people having kids in general, so I can't get too adament about it.

Undone 06-13-2002 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy:
Also, it's not about what the parents want. It's all about the child.

Why are adults any less worthwhile than children? What age, would you say, that a child suddenly has less rights b/c it becomes an adult? So I think this argument is bullshit.

Sex has nothing to do with the ability to be a responsible parent.

Also, to follow up on what Mayo and G Squirrel have already mentioned, intolerance is not the fault of those being harrassed/oppressed. Black people who attended desegregated schools were notoriously harrassed...does this mean there should not have been desegregation? You don't tell someone to not be gay b/c folks will make fun of that. That is ridiculous. The same should apply to raising a child under those circumstances.



Undone 06-13-2002 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lie:
...but I don't like the idea of people having kids in general...



[This message has been edited by Undone (edited 06-13-2002).]


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