i'm pretty sure that's an urban legend

To my knowledge, Mark Le Drew dosen't elicit the same kind of sick retribution from ill-breds the way Suze's does. So, from my perspective, the insult lies only in the context of the recent threads dedicated to her dishonor, and it's wasn't a reference to identity.

but I did appreciate your little rant on racism, it was really... neat-o. Yes, fight the good fight.

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if it is, then history is as corrupt as the present, which could very well be the case.


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She can't do it, she never has been able to.


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Nice to see someone think similarly.
Her research is good, but very one-sided. I would expect the same from Sierra Club members against nuclear energy and Christians against Satanists, though... all one-sided, omitting anything pro the other side completely.

Oh, give me a break. One-sided? There is barely another side to the argument. Throughout history, Jews have been disliked by just about everybody.

Every single Jewish holiday consists of, "We were persecuted, we survived, lets eat."

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what the fuck is your problem, brendan sweeeney. this issue is not a subject of ARGUMENT. one can not ARGUE about whether or not jews have been hated throughout the history of the world. it is a FACT. and i want to post other sources i fucking well can. and i'm not anything close to a 'well-read' dumbass. people LEARN shit from things they read. that's the whole point of learning. you don't learn things by simply sitting in an empty room and trying to figure things out for yourself. that's bullshit.

every fucking fact you regurgitate is something you got from another source. i'm just being a little more honest about where my 'knowlege' comes from.

shawna: not every holiday necessarily. umm, chanukah and purim are like that but they're not major holidays. out of the three major holidays only one is like that: passover and...it's more about redemption and renewal then...well maybe not MORE but definitely as much

umm. you know. sukkot, rosh hashanah, yom kippur, etc, etc, etc, tu bish'vat or yeah. a whole bunch.

okay, what other side is there to this question. people have hated jews because they're evil? because they're bad people? because they deserve it? because they really do eat babies?

no really. i want to know what this 'other side' is that i seem to be incapable of comprehending.

oh yeah, and i posted my own words on it and got accused of being a babbling idiot that didn't know anything.


i believe in the scapegoat theory? is that wrong? do you want me to come up with my own idea all by my widdle self that makes no sense? you'd rather have an argument that's wrong and your own than have an argument that's right and formulated by someone else? whatever. seriously.

if i posted something on how the universe started am i incapable of independent thought? or am i simplya ffirming that some people know more than i do?

A "well-read dumbass"? Come on, Brendan. Suze is thoughtful and intelligent. I'm disappointed to see you fall in behind the "I Hate Suze For No Reason" crowd. If you're looking to pick on people for being dumb, you could do a lot better than Suze.

Actually Ian, I hate her for many reasons not the least of which was annoying me on AIM constantly until I blocked her. I'm the one who started the "I HATE SUZE" club, most of these other people are just pretenders. She is intelligent and has the capability to be thoughtful but her posts are so mindless and so scattered that it shows her true laziness. Second, she started multiple "I hate brendan sweeney" posts when I fought with her over Israel's inhumanity towards Palestine. She can't handle it when people argue with her about that subject, and I think that's rather juvenile. Thirdly, she posts enormous cut-and-pasted articles for us to read during arguments which just makes it even harder to understand where she's coming from. Finally, she seems to think still that if they teach a political idea in textbooks it makes it true. She needs to learn how to break those conceptions. I'm being mean to her so that she might do it.

You of all people should know I always have a reason for hating people. I'm disappointed to find out you think that little of me. I'm not surprised, but I am dissappointed.

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There's no such thing as independent thought, and anyone contributing under the false belief that it does exist is just drunk on self importance, egotistical, or fucking pathetic. I'd rather read someone's research much more than looking for facts buried under some fag's egotisitcal bragging. Lighten up, you don't have to sweat gravy


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for one, i know my greatest flaw is that i get very angry when people say things that i disagree with on a completely basic level. i have very strong feelings for the zionist cause, and,, i dunno. it just pisses me off when people act as if it's wrong.

two, as far as the cut-and-pasting thing goes, i've already told you why you're dumb as far as that goes

three, you really hold a fucking grudge. my grudges tend to last ten minutes. yours seem to last ten years.

four, ian knows me better than you do so you should listen to him when he tells you not to be an idiot :[

All the facts are but not my arguments.

And this post is asking why people hated Jews, and I didn't even read it. I was mostly just talking about your other idiotic threads recently.

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ur stupid. not me. remember that.

You dipshit, I'm not talking about using "facts" I'm talking about using opinions. But then again, I'm not talking about this thread or even participating in the argument.

Oh and a note on your stupidity, if you take the phrase "independent thought" literally then there's no real hope for you in the first place.

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I thought you were leaving?



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or maybe you just didn't understand what (s)he said

i told you. i have a bad temper. i've also told julio i'm never talking to him again close to 50 times.

That's probably true. Of course, like most "intellectuals" on this board his point is vague at best.

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You can't use "bad temper" as an excuse for anything. Perhaps you should learn to control it.



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my bad temper is not an *EXCUSE* for deciding i was never talking to julio again or going to netphoria again. it is a *REASON* jeez. dude. maybe you need a thinking cap. or some vitamin juice. or something.

I mentioned independent thought only as a reference to your conversation with Kypper, which by the way, is a fucking insightful meeting of the minds. So, way to get sidetracked. Though you decline to contribute anything worthwhile to the thread, you still take it upon yourself to point out the faults of someone else's posting habits? Do you really need that extra boost to your ego? Get a fucking life. Stop underestimating people's contributions... and your health for that matter.

edit- now that the heated moment has passed, I guitily plead to sufferring from a bad temper as well. Though relying on emotion shouldn't hinder communication, since it still conveys information- that being that I dislike you- i should still avoid it since it only distracts the thin skinned.


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