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peabody 04-16-2002 11:44 AM

prom. with a guy. DONT THINK SO.
 
So, I asked my good friend Daniel to go to my prom with me. He said yes, and got his tuxedo as did I.

My parents asked whom I was going with and I said, "Janelle Sealy," who doesn't exist, really. They've banned me from dating, seeing other guys, and pretty much anything sexual, but anyways, I thought that they'd surely say no to this...So, I lied. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

So my brother finds out from me, and I usually trust him, but he went and told my parents yesterday. They called the school. They got the principal totally pissed off, and told him, "not to worry," because they won't let me go. They threatened me last night with having me arrested for running away and/or kidnapping on Daniel if I tried to go with Daniel.

So...we all got in a big fight...threw things, hit things, and called each other names. After a while, we calmed down and I gave them some damn good points about why I should be allowed to go and why it would be safe for me to go, which I fully believe it is. They said that they've reconsidered and now think it is pretty ok, as long as we run realllllly fast to my car after prom, which I was planning to do anyways.

Now, I have to meet with the principal tomorrow morning. I went to him today to see when he was free, and when I walked into his office he said(in a very pissed off tone), "I'm not ready to talk to you. Get out."

So...I'm confused.

Can the school bar me from going with my date?


Travis Meeks 04-16-2002 11:50 AM

damn, must suck to be gay eh?

I don't see how the school can stop you from going. Be an American and sue them if they do.....oh yeah, kick your brother's ass

Minipudge 04-16-2002 11:51 AM

that really sucks - at least you have balls to attempt it. I never would have...

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peabody 04-16-2002 11:51 AM

ok, glad we got one worthless response out of the way.

Graveflower 04-16-2002 11:51 AM

I think you could raise hell with the media if they did try and stop you. Whether or not they do, is if they're prepared to deal with that.

peabody 04-16-2002 11:53 AM

but I don't to "raise hell." i want to go to my prom with someone i will have fun with. that's it. not a statement about me being gay, not a statement about me being who i want to be. just i want to have a good times.

Travis Meeks 04-16-2002 11:53 AM

I would like to make another worthless response

thank you

peabody 04-16-2002 11:55 AM

"want" should've been inserted in that last respone.

peabody 04-16-2002 11:56 AM

god damn. when i type fast i make mistakes! i have good subject verb agreement skills!

Graveflower 04-16-2002 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peabody:
i want to go to my prom with someone i will have fun with. just i want to have a good times.

But if they stop you from going, how will you get that?

Anyway, they probably won't actually do anything. Your principal seems like a real winner, though.

BlueStar 04-16-2002 11:59 AM

If I recall correctly, there have been instances of same sex prom dates and schools trying to stop them.

The school really has no right to stop you and Daniel from going together. Your principle's behavior was kind of odd, though. When you meet with him, try using the same points that you used with your parents. Also, you could just play the "just friends" card. People without dates will often go to prom with a friend or group of friends...so you could always just claim that Daniel isn't actually a "date". (But, that is ridiculous and you really shouldn't have to do such a thing.)

Anyways, good luck...I'm sure it'll all work out.

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ravenguy2000 04-16-2002 12:00 PM

I feel blessed that I have parents that actually encouraged me to go to prom with a guy, but alas, I didn't have the balls to do it. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

Take it as a positive thing that you can actually openly talk with your parents about such things from time to time.

Oh, yeah, and kick your brother's ass.

peabody 04-16-2002 12:01 PM

if it comes to me having to raise hell, then so be it, but i highly doubt it will.

i just don't see why people are soooo concerened with whom i'll be dancing with.

peabody 04-16-2002 12:02 PM

my brother is 6'2", 210 pounds, and on his way into the naval academy, so i don't think i could kick his ass.

Travis Meeks 04-16-2002 12:04 PM

or you can just stop being so gay

darcy_is_sexy 04-16-2002 12:05 PM

that sucks! i can't believe anyone would do something like that to you. at least your parents were somewhat rational and gave you a chance to explain yourself.

kidnapping? wtf? i can't even begin to comprehend the stupidity of the school administrators. this is the type of situation where the media could make a huge difference, but you already said you don't want to make a big deal out of it. if the principal seems unwilling to budge, threaten to alert the media about the situation. you don't have to actually alert them, though.

peabody 04-16-2002 12:06 PM

well...anywho.

my parents are more concerened with my safety, so they say.

i don't see any safety issues except for a few people calling me names or saying "ew."

people at my school don't fight. they are assholes, and horrible people smetimes, but they won't fight unless they are EXTREMELY provoked. i don't see how barely dancing with a guy extremely provokes them.

hey, i'll also have about 7 bitchy, black, new york girls ready to fight for me. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

BlueStar 04-16-2002 12:07 PM

Some articles you want to read:

http://www.aclu.org/features/f052600a.html

http://www.aclu.org/issues/gay/prom.html

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/05/31/gay.prom.date/

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Mirror_Untrue 04-16-2002 12:07 PM

This reminds me of something which is all over the news where I live. There's this guy who goes to a catholic high school and wants to take his boyfriend to the prom with him. The school said that it goes against the "objective of the catholic church" and is not letting him go. He presented it to the board and they told him no as well, so he's suing them. His parents are totatlly behind him though.

august pumpkin 04-16-2002 12:07 PM

technically, i don't think the school could *bar* you from going w/ daniel, but they probably would pressure you to no end in an attempt to break you down and change your mind. my high school had a similar attitude, i remember rumors of a same-sex couple and how everyone was determined to stop it. (of course they didn't want people to go alone either...they charged a girl full price when she didn't have a date...) good luck, just be rational and calm and make your principal look like the one who is overreacting.

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ravenguy2000 04-16-2002 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peabody:
my brother is 6'2", 210 pounds, and on his way into the naval academy, so i don't think i could kick his ass.

Well then I'd kick his ass for you.


peabody 04-16-2002 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by darcy_is_sexy:
that sucks! i can't believe anyone would do something like that to you. at least your parents were somewhat rational and gave you a chance to explain yourself.

kidnapping? wtf? i can't even begin to comprehend the stupidity of the school administrators. this is the type of situation where the media could make a huge difference, but you already said you don't want to make a big deal out of it. if the principal seems unwilling to budge, threaten to alert the media about the situation. you don't have to actually alert them, though.

i don't want to threaten anyone! that's just just as bad as what they're doing.

i want to explain, and make them try to understand what i will be doing, and what the consequences(and lack there of) will be.


BlueStar 04-16-2002 12:10 PM

from http://www.aclu.org/issues/gay/prom.html

Quote:

That was twenty years ago. Today, the law is still the same. Don't let your school tell you that you can't go to the prom with your sweetheart -- or even your best friend -- just because the two of you are the same sex. Tell them about Aaron Fricke v. Cumberland High School Principal Richard B. Lynch in U.S. District Court in Rhode Island. And call your local ACLU if they still refuse.


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BlueStar 04-16-2002 12:13 PM

from http://www.aclu.org/features/f052600a.html

Quote:

In Virginia, a student stood up for her rights even though parents and community members turned out at school board meetings to oppose her attending her prom with a same-sex date. The high school revoked their policy of barring same-sex couples from dances shortly after the ACLU of Virginia faxed them a letter pointing out that their policy was illegal.


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obscured01 04-16-2002 12:15 PM

My high school didn't allow same sex dates. Which I think is stupid, but then this is the center of the Bible Belt...

I'm sorry though, that really sucks http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

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Graveflower 04-16-2002 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ravenguy2000:
Well then I'd kick his ass for you.


Yeah, me too. I'm 6'4 and 260 pounds. And I sure ain't in no prissy Naval Academy!

BlueStar 04-16-2002 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peabody:
i don't want to threaten anyone! that's just just as bad as what they're doing.

Just try pointing out to your principal that it is illegal for him to keep you from going to prom with who you want. And you could have the ACLU fax your principal a letter. Which shouldn't really cause any trouble or anything and wouldn't involve you saying anything that could be construed as a threat or anything to your principal. It would just be a letter that would be sent just to your principal...which would just serve as proof for him that keeping you and Daniel from going to prom together would be illegal.

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[This message has been edited by BlueStar (edited 04-16-2002).]

strange_one 04-16-2002 12:41 PM

same-sex dates never occured at my high school, so I'm not familiar with it.
there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to take this guy as your date and have some good times, perhaps just don't make out with him in the middle of the dance floor

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Random Female 04-16-2002 12:54 PM

Can you just buy your ticket solo and have Daniel buy a ticket solo? Then just show up together. I went to my prom single with a couple of friends the same way.

Zach 04-16-2002 01:00 PM

and after Graveflower and ravenguy are done kicking his ass, i'll kick him in the balls while he's on the floor!

frail_and_bedazzled 04-16-2002 02:25 PM

hmmm. fucking assholes. you, of course, have the right to go. that's insane.

tick 04-16-2002 02:27 PM

all this for a corn ball prom

twilightfadez 04-16-2002 02:33 PM

thats just fucked up. i hate society when it comes to issues like this. its ok for girls to go together, but everyone flips out if its guys.

melancholia 04-16-2002 03:29 PM

it is your high school prom, and it is up to you to make the most of it and be happy...
http://ligaly.com
I helped plan the Pride Gala...a prom for gay couples... it was a really great event.

don't worry about your parents...eventually they'll see that you're not a child anymore.

orange crush 04-16-2002 03:55 PM

proms are overrated anyway, just tell your parents you are going, and get a motel room instead.

Delta 04-16-2002 03:59 PM

gay prom dates have been front page news here in toronto for like the last 3 or 4 weeks. some kid in one of the burbs wants to take his boyfriend to his catholic high school's prom, the school refused, so he raised a huge stink. he lost in the end, which isnt surprising considering it was a catholic high school, which seem to operate independant of the canadian human right charter

Lunadisarm 04-16-2002 05:59 PM

If you go to a private school (and I think you do?) then they can forbid you from going with a same sex date, to my knowledge. I'm pretty sure that by deciding to go to a private school, many of your rights are almost "signed away." For example, dress codes are debated as being against the freedom of expression... however, they hold up in court since you could always leave the private school and go to a public one that has no dress code.

So I would assume that you may not be allowed to bring a same sex date because it's a private school and you choose to go there, per se. I don't know for a fact though.

~beth

Samsa 04-16-2002 06:05 PM

yes exactly. what elizabeth said (then why do i bother repeating?) ...i think simply because alex goes to a private school they can do whatever they want. actually..you know, private schools aren't allowed to racially discrimintate though right? (bob jones university isssue dealing with interracial marriages or something?) anyways...yeah. but . i dunno. i guess as the law stands right now they can do whatever the fuck they want in regards to homosexuality. it may change in the future though. we'll see.

TiaraGurl 04-16-2002 06:31 PM

Wasn't this on dawson's creek?

all joking aside I know that you don't want to be political alex but if you end up being able to go maybe you will show other people it is not such a big deal to be yourself and that could be a good thing.

did you have your catscan thing?

Aeroplane 04-16-2002 06:37 PM

I would just say fuck the fucking prom, BUT . . . since they've pissed me (and most of us and hopefull you) off, I'd go just to annoy them. I understand you don't want to make an issue out of this, but someone else already did. Stand up now or always be walked on. It just makes me http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/mad.gif !


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