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killtheyouth 02-10-2002 01:31 AM

oh c'mon, the answer was fucking obvious and several people stated it. No further bludgeoning was needed and i trust he is intelligent enough to not fuck with someone elses relationship.

FearFactory 02-10-2002 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth:
oh c'mon, the answer was fucking obvious and several people stated it. No further bludgeoning was needed and i trust he is intelligent enough to not fuck with someone elses relationship.


Nick K 02-10-2002 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by FearFactory:

http://raversaregay.homestead.com/files/dusty2-16.jpg

this girl looks like one of the Olson twins...

FearFactory 02-10-2002 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Nick K:
this girl looks like one of the Olson twins...

That would be my girlfriend, dusty.



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Nick K 02-10-2002 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by FearFactory:
That would be my girlfriend, dusty.



i figured as much.

Best Looking Boy 02-10-2002 01:44 AM

Hey you're a big guy... that's better than you should be able to do.

meow 02-10-2002 03:44 AM

if you can get sex w/o love, fucking go for it

killtheyouth 02-10-2002 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by meow:
if you can get sex w/o love, fucking go for it

she has a BOYFRIEND.

Kumar Littlejeans 02-10-2002 04:19 AM

Thhis line you speak of was demonstrated quite finely in the film Eyes Wide Shut. Of course, about 3 people noticed this, so it was rendered ineffective.

nevermind 02-10-2002 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by sickbadthing:
way to ruin john's thread.

i'm ashamed of all of you.

shut the fuck up, pusssy.

http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif


bonsor 02-10-2002 11:24 AM

I'll elaborate on the situation.'

He is 19. She is 16. They are eachother's first big relationship. He moved to her side of town to be with her more. He speaks of marriage and having kids. He's practically waiting for her to graduate so they can move in together. In my opinion, that's fucking sick, but whatever.

He's had infidelity problems of his own, which doesn't make it any more right, I know, but it's more reason to break up with him.

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon. She said "I'm only 16. I'm too young and too inexperienced to be this serious with someone. I just need to go out with other people and live for the moment". I interpret that as she just wants experience points, as do I. A fling is inevitable. A relationship is possible. I honestly don't have a problem with that.

bonsor 02-10-2002 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Raskolnikov:
If she's willing to cheat on her current boyfriend, what's stopping her from cheating on your 8 months down the road from now?

This thought did cross my mind. I think of it this way. High school relationships don't last forever. It's kind of like buying a dog. In both cases, they will die before you do. It's like buying yourself a prepackaged tragedy. I'm going to try to make it work out, but I'm not going to milk it dry. There's no point in trying to make a highschool relationship last forever, especially if it's your first. That's how I see it. Things will probably fuck up, but I'll get some EXP out of it.

pale_princess 02-10-2002 11:34 AM

my roommate kate finds it hard to have sex with someone she loves.

wangcomputers 02-10-2002 12:19 PM

just after experience points, eh?

perhaps you shouldn't have played those RPGs after all..

meow 02-10-2002 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by ******:

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon.

then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.

bonsor 02-10-2002 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by meow:
then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.

shut up

meow 02-10-2002 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by ******:

shut up

you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.

raindrops + sunshowers 02-10-2002 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by ******:
shut up

The truth hurts sometimes.

John, I like you, and you're just asking for trouble. It's easy to sit back, removed from the situation, and say, "Well, I'm going to do this, this, and this, and I realize things might get rough down the road but I just want to try it ... "

But life has a way of throwing curveballs at you. What you're saying comes easily now: you haven't been in a similar situation before, and furthermore, I would guess that you're probably intrigued by the entire thing and you want to know what it's all about, and if you go in with the mindset that it's not going to work, then it'll be okay.

It just doesn't work that way, though. I can't say anything to prove it to you besides the fact that I've been there, and it just doesn't fucking work. It makes you miserable, and it's not worth it.

That said, ultimately it's your decision and either your mistake to make or your triumph to have. Just be prepared to live with the ramifications, both positive and negative, when it's all over--even the ones you never thought could possibly happen to you.

bittertrance 02-10-2002 02:47 PM

i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice

meow 02-10-2002 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by bittertrance:
i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice

I <3 JARED

bonsor 02-10-2002 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by meow:
you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.

I don't like it because it's YOUR solution


raindrops + sunshowers 02-10-2002 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by bittertrance:
i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice

BURNED

OH WAIT

NOT BURNED


meow 02-10-2002 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by ******:
Quote:

Originally posted by meow:
you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.
I don't like it because it's YOUR solution


Well the only reason that I dont want you to get hurt is because if you do, all of netphoria will have to put up with it.

bonsor 02-10-2002 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by ******:
I don't like it because it's YOUR solution

By the way, never ever reply to my threads.


bonsor 02-10-2002 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by meow:
Well the only reason that I dont want you to get hurt is because if you do, all of netphoria will have to put up with it.

I fail to see how localizing my rants within one thread affects 'all of netphoria'. You clicked on the thread, bitch.

bonsor 02-10-2002 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by raindrops + sunshowers:
BURNED

OH WAIT

NOT BURNED


Word.

Listen, I'm going to end up doing it. I've weighed the consequences and realize that I only have myself to blame if I fuck it up. I'll use it as experience.

I'll use a variation of a famous Shakespeare quote. It's better to have made out and fucked up someone else's relationship than to have never made out at all.

I'll learn from it. Believe me.


NegaBenji 02-10-2002 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by meow:
I <3 JARED

TAKE IT OUT BACK

THRILLHO 02-10-2002 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by ******:
I'll use a variation of a famous Shakespeare quote. It's better to have made out and fucked up someone else's relationship than to have never made out at all.

that's what i was going to say. i bet you're thinking "finally, after years of having no sex/love/dating life, *something* is happening. as in, not nothing. which means it's an opportunity. if i just decline, i'll regret it horribly." so go for it.

i know it's not the most moral and failsafe approach to the situation, but it's one that hasn't been acknowledged yet.

but to be honest, meow's decision is the most logical. there's nothing wrong with just waiting for her to end it off first. this guy seems posessive, and you are going to be his enemy. what if he's fucked up? either wait a while until he's out or watch your back. actually, watch your back anyways.

btw, i love the term "experience points." i'm going to start using it.

goatse 02-10-2002 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by FearFactory:
Goth bunny ears? Okay... first off, they're kitty ears that she got a couple of halloweens ago. Secondly, GOTH? What in the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure where she got the collar from, but I can assure you that she's not gothic - though I doubt that will change your mind.

and another picture for you to jack off to:

http://raversaregay.homestead.com/files/dbm.jpg




..i think she is hot.

Never_Nohen 02-11-2002 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by ******:
It's like buying yourself a prepackaged tragedy.

John, I love you. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah. Cheating is bad stuff. Not only is it just generally ethically uncool and a bad precedent for any future relationship, but it's bound to get everyone involved burned, especially if you harbor hope of this becoming anything more than a one-time fling. If she's planning to break it off with him soon anyway, why not just hold off a little while, and save yourself the unnecessary drama? You've waited this long, I'm sure you can wait a little longer, for the sake of your first experience being just between you and her, right? Because as long as she's still with this guy and hooking up with you non-consentually (from the standpoint of their relationship), then he's going to be an intrinsic part of your relationship with her...which seems just unnecessarily messy and unfun.

But it is your life, and it looks like you've made up your mind, so...at least let us all know how it goes. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

nevermind 02-11-2002 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by Never_Nohen:
John, I love you. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah. Cheating is bad stuff. Not only is it just generally ethically uncool and a bad precedent for any future relationship, but it's bound to get everyone involved burned, especially if you harbor hope of this becoming anything more than a one-time fling. If she's planning to break it off with him soon anyway, why not just hold off a little while, and save yourself the unnecessary drama? You've waited this long, I'm sure you can wait a little longer, for the sake of your first experience being just between you and her, right? Because as long as she's still with this guy and hooking up with you non-consentually (from the standpoint of their relationship), then he's going to be an intrinsic part of your relationship with her...which seems just unnecessarily messy and unfun.

But it is your life, and it looks like you've made up your mind, so...at least let us all know how it goes. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif


blah blah. ya dyke-ish whore.
like you've never cheated http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/rolleyes.gif

what a sad sorry bitch you are. heh.

Lie 02-11-2002 04:53 AM

Well, I've avoided this topic long enough. Time to throw in my two cents.

What I don't understand is what's so damn hard about her breaking up with this guy before she gets together with you (whether it's just sex or an actual relationship) or about you waiting until she breaks up with him. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think the two of you may both be getting off a little on the whole cheating thing.

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NinjaTurtle 02-11-2002 04:56 AM

hey hey ****** guess what?
if shes willing to leave this other guy thats shes been with for who knows how long then what will she do to you? similar situation happened to me for a while, shit it still is. but im the guy on the other end, she left me. but now shes floating between me and this other dude.
all im saying is girls arent as smart or sensible or logical as they think they are.
and shes young, and possibly scared by the choice she might make, and maybe she likes the change it could bring. but if oyu want her take her, know that the other guy isnt gonna just walk away so prepare for a whole lot of shit man... then again... fuck what we all think, do what you want...

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NegaBenji 02-11-2002 09:30 AM

I think what he means is he's not in it for the long haul, this is just a little thing between the two of them. I'm not really inclined to believe it will be any more than that, it sounds like she's looking for an escape from her current relationship. John, just be aware of 1 thing - if you do this before she breaks it off with him, you'll be the 'other guy', the one who cheated with his fiancee. If he's that committed to her he's likely to be pretty hurt, and pretty pissed - and seeing as he won't want to take it out on her, expect some bad vibes coming your way.

wangcomputers 02-11-2002 09:36 AM

shoryuken

melancholia 02-11-2002 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by FearFactory:
If she's already in a relationship, don't mess with her. That's just asking for trouble. You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"

If you just want sex... that's up to you. But remember, guys can be sluts too.

If you want a relationship with this girl, keep in mind that she's going to probably cheat on you too. and unless you're a fool, you don't want that.




i agree... if she really wanted you, she would have broken up with her boyfriend before your date with her.

this girl, as wonderful as she may be to you, has a decision to make, and you (boy) should not be moving in on her right now. the ball is in her court.

don't fuck with other peoples relationships, until they are 100% over.


melancholia 02-11-2002 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by ******:
I'll elaborate on the situation.'

He is 19. She is 16. They are eachother's first big relationship. He moved to her side of town to be with her more. He speaks of marriage and having kids. He's practically waiting for her to graduate so they can move in together. In my opinion, that's fucking sick, but whatever.

He's had infidelity problems of his own, which doesn't make it any more right, I know, but it's more reason to break up with him.

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon. She said "I'm only 16. I'm too young and too inexperienced to be this serious with someone. I just need to go out with other people and live for the moment". I interpret that as she just wants experience points, as do I. A fling is inevitable. A relationship is possible. I honestly don't have a problem with that.

If he's talking about living together, having kids, getting married... and she is sneaking around on dates behind his back...there is something very wrong going on.

and again, this is where SHE has to make a decision about her relationship status... I mean, right now, it sounds like this girl is loving the attentions she's getting from two guys, and is making no effort to pick one...

which in the long run, is going to hurt you, him, or both.

i'm a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around"...so, if you think it's right to screw around with a girl who has a boyfriend...go ahead...but don't be shocked when she turns around and does it to you in a year when you fall hard for her...


melancholia 02-11-2002 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by meow:
then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.


right...i like you meow.

Best Looking Boy 02-11-2002 01:11 PM

Stop talking about the actual subject. You're giving it merit by discussing it. Talk about how big metalhead's girlfriend is.

Ammy 02-11-2002 03:47 PM

"metalhead's girlfiend" is one of the prettiest, sweetest girls I have ever met.


with that said... It's useless to give you advice, you're going to to what you're going to do... but honestly.. the best things are worth waiting for... have a little patience. ask her straight out if she means to break up with him. wait till it happens or the confusion and mess will just get worse. patience damnit! if you're gunna get some, you're gunna get some, you've waited this long, wait a little longer, and maybe you'll get more than just the physical crap.


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