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Trotskilicious 07-02-2007 12:48 AM

oh chris benoit was the crippler?

I wonder how the old boarder Crippler is taking this news. hahaha what a tool.

Nate the Grate 07-02-2007 12:49 AM

Whoa, I forgot about Crippler. Was he named after the wrestler?

Trotskilicious 07-02-2007 12:58 AM

yeah he used to say shit he said. crippler was such a wrestling fag he wrote wrestling fanfic, if i remember correctly.

"It's true, it's true." after every post, it was fucking maddening.

AndySlash 07-02-2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

This has been speculated on for awhile now. But IMO, there's no way he could have applied that hold on a 7-year old properly. I'm guessing that, since the DA has suggested it fairly consistently in the last few days that he used some sort of hold as opposed to a plastic bag (as originally mentioned), people who want to sensationalize the story as much as possible (hey, like that reputable media outlet known as the Sun!) really want the use of the Crossface to be the case.

Dogfighter28 07-02-2007 01:08 AM

HE PUT HIS SON IN THE CROSSFACE?!??!

wow. fucking wow.

Corganist 07-02-2007 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AndySlash
This has been speculated on for awhile now. But IMO, there's no way he could have applied that hold on a 7-year old properly. I'm guessing that, since the DA has suggested it fairly consistently in the last few days that he used some sort of hold as opposed to a plastic bag (as originally mentioned), people who want to sensationalize the story as much as possible (hey, like that reputable media outlet known as the Sun!) really want the use of the Crossface to be the case.

I'm of the mind that it probably wasn't a "proper" Crippler Crossface, because it would be hard for a full grown man to apply it to a kid. And I don't think suffocation is really what the move is meant to accomplish anyway. If the kid's neck or shoulder was broken, then I could see this Crossface talk being more legit.

With all the time Benoit spent training in Stu Hart's "dungeon," I'd bet he picked up all sorts of shoot holds that could suffocate someone much easier than a Crippler Crossface would. The idea of using a wrestling hold to kill someone sounds nuts in and of itself, but maybe he just did so because he had training in that area and thus thought it was a better bet to keep things quick and painless. It makes sense in a twisted way. If someone knows a way to properly apply something like a sleeperhold so that it cuts off oxygen to the brain, why wouldn't they use that instead of something as potentially messy as smothering someone with a pillow or bag?

JokeyLoki 07-02-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious
yeah he used to say shit he said. crippler was such a wrestling fag he wrote wrestling fanfic, if i remember correctly.

"It's true, it's true." after every post, it was fucking maddening.

I miss him :(

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Corganist
With all the time Benoit spent training in Stu Hart's "dungeon," I'd bet he picked up all sorts of shoot holds that could suffocate someone much easier than a Crippler Crossface would. The idea of using a wrestling hold to kill someone sounds nuts in and of itself, but maybe he just did so because he had training in that area and thus thought it was a better bet to keep things quick and painless. It makes sense in a twisted way. If someone knows a way to properly apply something like a sleeperhold so that it cuts off oxygen to the brain, why wouldn't they use that instead of something as potentially messy as smothering someone with a pillow or bag?

This is all true.

But at the same time - fuck it's funny thinking about wrestlers learning moves that are actually real/actually work.

http://jj.am/gallery/d/27819-1/WrestlingFake.gif

ChristHimself! 07-02-2007 08:53 AM

i remember when i was wee i gave someone a DDT

we were on one of those chipped bark kiddies playing areas but he still passed out, oops!

Shapan 07-02-2007 03:35 PM

my bro and i use to wrestle when we were younger. i executed the figure 4 like no one's business, i also enjoyed using the sharpshooter because bret hart has always been my favorite wrestler.

fluxequalsrad 07-02-2007 03:40 PM

you could snap someones shit in two with a sharpshooter if you lean back hard while giving it. Figure 4 reversed into sharpshooter is sick. I think Flare/Bret Hart did that once?

fluxequalsrad 07-02-2007 03:42 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...300340,00.html

this joke progressed nicely.

Shapan 07-02-2007 03:42 PM

i definitely remember bret hart doing it, he probably won a match or two doing that.

sharpshooter was painful as hell, i wonder if i could still remember how to do it.

AndySlash 07-02-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenguy2000
But at the same time - fuck it's funny thinking about wrestlers learning moves that are actually real/actually work.

They're becoming few and far between these days, but there are a few guys out there- shooters- who really could cripple you with a wide variety of different holds. Stu Hart was one, so you can bet Chris Benoit knew a few, and only the ones Stu wanted Benoit to know.

One of the methods in the wrestling business used to humble an outspoken newcomer is to put the offender in the ring with a wrestler known for being "stiff" with their punches, kicks and holds. They punish you in that ring. If this were an earlier time and the audience wasn't so accustomed to fast-paced action all of the time, you can bet that that misbehaving wrestler would get "stretched", too- repeatedly put in excrutiatingly painful submission holds over and over. Good times.

GlasgowKiss 07-02-2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySlash
They're becoming few and far between these days, but there are a few guys out there- shooters- who really could cripple you with a wide variety of different holds. Stu Hart was one, so you can bet Chris Benoit knew a few, and only the ones Stu wanted Benoit to know.

One of the methods in the wrestling business used to humble an outspoken newcomer is to put the offender in the ring with a wrestler known for being "stiff" with their punches, kicks and holds. They punish you in that ring. If this were an earlier time and the audience wasn't so accustomed to fast-paced action all of the time, you can bet that that misbehaving wrestler would get "stretched", too- repeatedly put in excrutiatingly painful submission holds over and over. Good times.

:erm:

AndySlash 07-02-2007 04:13 PM

Hey, when you write an lengthy history of wrestling in college, you kinda learn this stuff.

GlasgowKiss 07-02-2007 04:15 PM

It all seems pretty kinky to me.

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 04:47 PM

yeah

it's all fake/

they're all big muscular men in tights grabbing at each other/

they're all queers/

fags like wrestling because they're too ashamed to watch gay porn/

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 04:48 PM

i like creative punctuation

AndySlash 07-02-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenguy2000


HAH?!




The jump at 1:22 is crucial.

GlasgowKiss 07-02-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000
yeah

it's all fake/

they're all big muscular men in tights grabbing at each other/

they're all queers/

fags like wrestling because they're too ashamed to watch gay porn/

Well i was talking more about the 'pain' factor.

waltermcphilp 07-02-2007 04:56 PM

your mother sucks!

Spaldz 07-02-2007 04:59 PM

1. I can't believe he apparently killed his son with a cross face crippler.

and

2. wtf british bulldog died?? :(

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss
Well i was talking more about the 'pain' factor.

Right, the homo-eroticism is tempered with violence. Ever seen Raging Bull?

GlasgowKiss 07-02-2007 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000
Right, the homo-eroticism is tempered with violence. Ever seen Raging Bull?

I dont know gay, man, just pain.

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss
I dont know gay, man, just pain.

PM Trotskilicious, he'll tell you all about both.

BumbleBeeMouth 07-02-2007 05:46 PM

http://steinerhaha.ytmnd.com/


GlasgowKiss 07-02-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000
PM Trotskilicious, he'll tell you all about both.

:bananamac

Trotskilicious 07-02-2007 06:21 PM

man what the fuck is that guy's problem with me

ravenguy2000 07-02-2007 06:48 PM

haha it was a joke

i mean i put the open mouth deviousj smiley and everything


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