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sppunk 10-29-2006 09:24 PM

In the final straw, Santorum says Casey's pension aids terrorists
 
I guess the news this morning that you're 14 points behind now doesn't make you realize saying insane things like this is the reason you're kinda far behind dude.
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Santorum: Pension investments under Casey linked to terrorism
By DAN NEPHIN
The Associated Press
PITTSBURGH (AP) — U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum accused state Treasurer Bob Casey of "aiding and abetting terrorism and genocide," saying Sunday that state pension funds are invested with companies linked to terrorist-sponsoring states.

As he has done before, Santorum criticized Casey's work ethic, saying his Democratic opponent has failed to show up for work and has not been a diligent treasurer in failing to change investment policies.

The third-ranking Republican in the Senate said preventing terrorists from getting funding was an essential part of combating terrorism.

"I'm the one trying to fight this war politically and economically so we don't have to fight it militarily, and he is asleep at the switch because he's not doing his job," Santorum said.

Casey's campaign disputed the allegations, calling them a sign of desperation. Santorum has trailed Democrat Casey for months in independent polls.

"This is yet another case of Rick Santorum launching attacks without having his facts straight," Casey spokesman Larry Smar. "Bob Casey has been proactive to try to make sure Pennsylvania taxpayer money is not invested in countries and companies that do business with terror-sponsoring countries."

Santorum did not cite specific examples, but referred to a report by the Center for Security Policy, a conservative think tank that has pushed for divestment from companies doing business in terror-sponsoring nations.

"Bob Casey has invested Pennsylvania pension funds in companies with ties to terrorist-sponsoring states and states that engage in genocide," Santorum said. "Bob Casey is aiding and abetting terrorism and genocide."

Casey has called on investment managers to assess whether any companies in their holdings have business in terrorist-sponsoring countries, Smar said. The issue is one facing treasurers across the country.

"Instead of making each state do homework, perhaps the federal government could make it a lot easier" by releasing a list of companies involved with terrorist nations, Smar said.

Santorum said it is not the federal government's place to release a list.

"You have layers of folks who look at, well, you know, are we going to offend our allies? You have the State Department sticking their nose in, you might have the Commerce Department sticking their nose in. There may be all sorts of interests that come into play that can color the picture," he said.

Santorum appeared at a news conference with Missouri state Treasurer Sarah Steelman, who has tackled the investment issue.

Missouri has hired a private company to screen investments, which Santorum said he favored.

Santorum also criticized Casey for not releasing information on where the treasury department is investing money.

The department is in the process of complying with a complicated "fishing expedition" filed by Santorum's campaign, Smar said. Investments are complicated and can change daily, he said.

Each candidate spent part of Sunday privately visiting churches around Pittsburgh. Casey also appeared at a rally in Erie.

"I think he's for the working people," said Tom Trott, 53, truck driver and Teamster, who was one of nearly 200 people at the Erie Maennerchor Club rally.

Trott said Casey was concerned with issues facing workers, such as benefits and preserving Social Security, while Santorum "seems to be about against just about everything we stand for."

On Monday, Casey planned to campaign in Wyomissing, Lancaster and Chambersburg, and Santorum was to appear at private fundraisers.

JokeyLoki 10-29-2006 10:25 PM

I'm speechless...

redbull 10-29-2006 10:25 PM

surpise, santorum is an idiot

Effloresce 10-29-2006 11:46 PM

Wow sppunk, I'm surprised you didn't say "...but Casey will still lose."
Santorum is such a fucking moron.

sppunk 10-30-2006 12:27 AM

It will be a much closer election that the "experts" predict.

Effloresce 10-30-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk
It will be a much closer election that the "experts" predict.

Even with Casey a full 16 points ahead (as I heard on the news this morning)?
Come on... you really think Ricky has a good shot of winning at this point?

sppunk 10-30-2006 10:30 AM

No, he won't win but he won't lose by 16 percent of the poll.

Effloresce 11-02-2006 01:38 PM

A loss is a loss. Rick's been around for, what, 12 years now? Of course, the less people that vote for him the better, as it's so comforting to know how much 11/7 is going to ruin his pride.

MusicMan4 11-02-2006 02:02 PM

seeing this guys campaign ads has been my least favorite part of living in pennsylvania

neopryn 11-02-2006 02:10 PM

i hate the little smirks and head cocks he pulls.

MusicMan4 11-02-2006 02:16 PM

there are billboards all over the place that say SANTORUM IS GOOD
what the hell is this

Effloresce 11-02-2006 02:35 PM

You live in Philly? Philly has to be the most liberal place in the state.
Whoever is putting up those signs there is wasting their time.

MusicMan4 11-02-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effloresce
You live in Philly? Philly has to be the most liberal place in the state.
Whoever is putting up those signs there is wasting their time.

theyre official billboards paid for by santorum and theyre all over route 95
SANTORUM IS GOOD
for senate

i forgot about the for senate part
i hate lynn swan too. and curt weldon. i dont like to be a party line guy but all the republican candidates in this state for every position just are so naturally hateable. at least in the jersey race theres some balance because democrat bob menendez is a dbag himself

HorseflyKing 11-02-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neopryn
head cocks he pulls.

heh heh.

homechicago 11-03-2006 11:11 PM

was santorum part of the contract on america group that supported responsible term limits? who were those republicans? seems to me they all lied about that item (amongst others)

BlueStar 11-03-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homechicago
was santorum part of the contract on america group that supported responsible term limits? who were those republicans? seems to me they all lied about that item (amongst others)

Almost all politicians when asked about term limits or if they will run again or if they will seek higher office or whatever will say they support term limits and won't run again and won't seek higher office - it's not just Repubs, it's a way to look good to the voters and get re-elected. But, I digress. With regards to the Contract with America, item 10 was called the "Citizen Legislature Act", which proposed that all legislators be held to a maximum of 12 years of service in government. The names of the Reps that made that promise are (Santorum was not one of them - but yeah, they pretty much all lied):

Charles Bass, NH-02
Steve Chabot, OH-01
Tom Davis, VA-11
Mark Foley, FL-16
Rodney Frelinghuysen, NJ-11
Gil Gutknecht, MN-01
Doc Hastings, WA-04
J.D. Hayworth, AZ-08
John Hostettler, IN-09
Walter Jones, NC-03
Sue Kelly, NY-19
Ray LaHood, IL-18
Tom Latham, IA-04
Steven LaTourette, OH-14
Sue Myrick, NC-09
Robert Ney, OH-18
Charlie Norwood, GA-09
George Radanovich, CA-19
John Shadegg, AZ-03
Mac Thornberry, TX-13
Todd Tiahrt, KS-04
Dave Weldon, FL-15
Jerry Weller, IL-11
Ed Whitfield, KY-01
Roger Wicker, MS-01

wolfo147 11-03-2006 11:33 PM

Charlie Bass is a lying prick. Most people in NH know that.

neopryn 11-04-2006 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graveflower
i hate lynn swan too. and curt weldon. i dont like to be a party line guy but all the republican candidates in this state for every position just are so naturally hateable. at least in the jersey race theres some balance because democrat bob menendez is a dbag himself

don't forget don sherwood, mistress strangler

Trotskilicious 11-04-2006 01:53 AM

I wish Santorum was my Senator.

Effloresce 11-04-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graveflower
theyre official billboards paid for by santorum and theyre all over route 95
SANTORUM IS GOOD
for senate

i forgot about the for senate part
i hate lynn swan too. and curt weldon. i dont like to be a party line guy but all the republican candidates in this state for every position just are so naturally hateable. at least in the jersey race theres some balance because democrat bob menendez is a dbag himself

Lynn Swann is done. Rendell has a ~25 point lead. There's nothing Swann can do, he has more or less locked himself into a loss. He pisses me off when he talks about how his name recognition will help him. Yeah, and what the hell has Swann done in his life that's remotely close to anything politically related? Absolutely nothing. He would be a worthless Gov. Go back to hosting specials about who the next Super Bowl MVP will be.

Hillzy 11-11-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk
No, he won't win but he won't lose by 16 percent of the poll.

Can we just revisit this statement?

wHATcOLOR 11-11-2006 09:08 PM

also the home depot stock price claims could use some revisiting

Hillzy 11-11-2006 10:26 PM

I knew you'd show up J, you and Boner seem to be the only others who share my need to hold Sppunk's ridiculous statements up to public scrutiny.

Effloresce 11-11-2006 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk
It will be a much closer election that the "experts" predict.

http://i15.tinypic.com/4i5y153.gif

Is that so? :D Casey ends up ahead by 18 points.

Trotskilicious 11-12-2006 03:32 PM

sppunk demonstrates his grasp of his state's politics.

Hillzy 11-14-2006 05:27 AM

He should be pretty up to speed, he claimed to be helping write legislation in another thread.

sppunk 11-14-2006 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious
sppunk demonstrates his grasp of his state's politics.

It's pretty nuts he lost by that much - it still amazes me a bit. But the anti-war vote killed him as it turns out.

sppunk 11-14-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillzy
He should be pretty up to speed, he claimed to be helping write legislation in another thread.

Writing legislation does not equate to predicting poll results, dude.

Effloresce 11-14-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk
It's pretty nuts he lost by that much - it still amazes me a bit. But the anti-war vote killed him as it turns out.

AND the Penn Hills tax shit...
AND his controversial statements on various ethical, moral, and religious issues.

If Santorum would have just kept his mouth shut about that, and admitted some irresponsibility in the whole Penn Hills tax fiasco, he still might have been a sitting senator. Even Ed Rendell said he delivers for PA. I truly think Rick just happened to start showing his true colors in the past few years, and it proved to be entirely way to conservative for this moderate Democratic state. Santorum used to come off as being a pretty respectful, tolerant, level-headed guy. Not anymore.

Also, he votes with George W. Bush so much... distancing himself from the Iraq war probably wouldn't have been enough anymore, since Dubya's popularity has been tanking for a long time now. Isn't his approval rating like 20-25% here in the mid-atlantic/northeastern US? Ouch.

TuralyonW3 11-14-2006 12:04 PM

When I first saw this thread title I thought Sean Casey


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