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ratking17 08-15-2006 02:17 PM

UPDATE
 
The Smashing Pumpkins are currently in the recording studio with legendary producer Roy Thomas Baker (Queen, The Cars, The Darkness), at work on their first new album since 1999.

www.smashingpumpkins.com

neopryn 08-15-2006 02:19 PM

oh man, the darkness

Fathoms (unadored) 08-15-2006 02:21 PM

Do you know what this means? ... it means this damn machine doesn't work at all!!!

Or, there's hope that all this silence really does mean Billy is growing his hair out again. Perfect for the Pumpkins new Darkness/Queen/The Cars influenced direction.

ratking17 08-15-2006 02:24 PM

I know everyone says that they have some inside info (my best friend knows so and so), but I would like to know where exactly they are recording and why no one has reported it? Is it Chicago, LA, Arizona?

wHATcOLOR 08-15-2006 02:26 PM

delete

transluscent 08-15-2006 02:28 PM

I BELIVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE!!

Effloresce 08-15-2006 02:29 PM

They're working with him? Wow!

Yeah yeah, The Darkness. SP is not The Darkness.

CYCLE_23 08-15-2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fathoms (unadored)
Do you know what this means? ... it means this damn machine doesn't work at all!!!

Or, there's hope that all this silence really does mean Billy is growing his hair out again. Perfect for the Pumpkins new Darkness/Queen/The Cars influenced direction.


Nice Back to the future quote

mpp 08-15-2006 02:33 PM

uh, he also produced journey, devo, ozzy, and other bands

sounds like an awesome move to me

waltermcphilp 08-15-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fathoms (unadored)
Do you know what this means? ... it means this damn machine doesn't work at all!!!

if my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour....you're gunna see some serious shit

Esty 08-15-2006 02:34 PM

This is gonna suck.

Fathoms (unadored) 08-15-2006 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltermcphilp
if my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour....you're gunna see some serious shit


my god they've found me... I don't know how but they found me... WHO DO YOU THINK! THE LIBIYANS!!!!

RenewRevive 08-15-2006 02:43 PM

These updates are like Chinese water torture. I'm gonna freak out if something meaningful doesn't happen soon.

davin 08-15-2006 02:44 PM

speaking of chinese, wasn't this the guy who was working on Chinese Democracy with GNR...? :confused:

This one better come out and not get lost in limbo...which i know was more axle's fault...but still.

From what I heard of the tracks that leaked though, the production quality was pretty guitar-accentuated stuff. This news is quite intriguing and interesting. Hmmmmm....

Averageprheight 08-15-2006 02:48 PM

OKAY...so I have some mixed feelings about this news.

First off, Roy Thomas Baker has produced some of the greatest classic rock albums of all time including Queen's epic "A Night At The Opera" however he also produced arguably the worst Yes album in their entire discography in "Tormato".
Rick Wakeman himself has said that while Tormato indeed had potential, Yes never got the best out of some of the material, while Steve Howe admitted that Yes were unsure of themselves musically at the time.

That kind of sucks because it might just mean that Roy doesn't exactly bring out all the potential a certain song may have.


HOWEVER...
The GREAT part of this news is it seems like the Pumpkins are going for a classic rock vibe.
Which makes me 10 million times more excited for this.

Ramdust 08-15-2006 02:53 PM

interesting...

douglas78 08-15-2006 02:56 PM

1999. when was machina actually recorded? does this mean since the last time tsp were all togethjer?

Effloresce 08-15-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averageprheight
OKAY...so I have some mixed feelings about this news.

First off, Roy Thomas Baker has produced some of the greatest classic rock albums of all time including Queen's epic "A Night At The Opera" however he also produced arguably the worst Yes album in their entire discography in "Tormato".
Rick Wakeman himself has said that while Tormato indeed had potential, Yes never got the best out of some of the material, while Steve Howe admitted that Yes were unsure of themselves musically at the time.

That kind of sucks because it might just mean that Roy doesn't exactly bring out all the potential a certain song may have.


HOWEVER...
The GREAT part of this news is it seems like the Pumpkins are going for a classic rock vibe.
Which makes me 10 million times more excited for this.

Dude, you're not having mixed feelings. You're being paranoid. Calm down.

Billy isn't just gonna let him run the show, you know how he is. I am confident that at the very least, this album will trump Machina.

Dead 08-15-2006 02:59 PM

We can only hope SP2 will make their debut with a gig at the Bait Shop on The O.C. The stage was set when they used To Sheila for a season 1 episode.

Dead 08-15-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douglas78
1999. when was machina actually recorded? does this mean since the last time tsp were all togethjer?

The album was already online in 1999 but wasn't released til 2000. Or was it just known that it was complete in 99 but got leaked in 2000... Anyway, it was done in 99. And Melissa was performing with them in like Dec. 99 or something, I can't remember my SP1 trivia right now. So 99 is accurate.

ratking17 08-15-2006 03:07 PM

99 Was probably when they were last in the studio. May of 2000 if memory serves me correct was when machina came out...but i might be wrong...

harrow 08-15-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratking17
I know everyone says that they have some inside info (my best friend knows so and so), but I would like to know where exactly they are recording and why no one has reported it? Is it Chicago, LA, Arizona?


They are recording in Los Angeles until the end of 2006

Averageprheight 08-15-2006 03:09 PM

"Today, Roy Thomas Baker spends most of his time in the U.S. While keeping Los Angeles his home base, he has built a beautiful studio complex of his own, complete with tennis court and olympic swim spa. His elegant facility is a three-and-a-half hour drive from L.A. in the foothills of the Mojave mountains, above the shores of Lake Havasu. His fabulously appointed and well-equipped studio contains hard-wired TLA, Summit and Neve mixers; a rare Stephens 40-track (fine-tuned and maintained by John Stephens) with Dolby SR; and six Tascam DA-88s."

^^^^
I would bet 100 bucks that this is where they are recording the new album and that is why everything has stayed so hush hush.

ratking17 08-15-2006 03:09 PM

Harrow, what/where is your source?

Corganist 08-15-2006 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpp
uh, he also produced journey, devo, ozzy, and other bands

sounds like an awesome move to me

I tend to agree. Maybe this means that the band is at least going to try for a more commercial sound. No muddy walls of guitars and synths. No "loud at any volume." No "futuristic rock." I don't necessarily think this means that the record is gonna sound like a 1970's arena rock record, but it makes me hopeful that we'll get an overall better sounding record than we've gotten in quite a while out of any Billy project. Of course, Billy will almost certainly be co-producing, so there's still plenty of chances for some questionable production choices to slip in.

I'm just excited that its someone who hasn't worked with the band before. I'd have been disappointed if it were self-produced, or if someone like Flood or Bjorn Thorsrud had been tapped.

Dead 08-15-2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratking17
99 Was probably when they were last in the studio. May of 2000 if memory serves me correct was when machina came out...but i might be wrong...

Well they were in the studio in 2000 but not with all 4 original members.

transluscent 08-15-2006 03:12 PM

when did Darcy leave? September '99?

davin 08-15-2006 03:14 PM

i generally agree with your comments Corganist, other than the Flood comment. I would have been happy with him working again...just like I would have been happy with Vig...but in-keeping with how the band likes to do things progressively, I think this is an excellent move.

Who brought up Billy buying psychadelic records in Memphis as a possible musical direction for the band. Hmmmm....they may have been on to something.

th3r3m1n 08-15-2006 03:15 PM

Don't panic. Smashing Pumpkins are not the Darkness, and having the same producer doesn't mean the songs will be the same. The point is that they have a professional producer, and the only important thing left is the music Billy's been writing. Am I the only surprised about how Flood has been rejected?

Dead 08-15-2006 03:16 PM

Some time in 99. But nevermind about that shit, It just says first new album since 99 so it doesn't matter when they were or weren't in the studio. Except one thing is that they're basically saying Machina 2 wasn't an album.

mpp 08-15-2006 03:18 PM

uh, if the first 5 seconds of the record sound anything like the first 5 seconds of "i believe in a thing called love," i think we're in good shape

i don't even like that song much, but it rocks at the beginning big time

ratking17 08-15-2006 03:18 PM

Dead, how is it that they are saying machina 2 is not an album? We know corgan wanted a double disk and that is where machina 2 came from...

harrow 08-15-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratking17
Harrow, what/where is your source?


I live in LA and we have seen Billy around here sometimes - esp in the West Hollywood area. As far as the source - one of my friends works with Kerry who is D'arcy's ex and they were working in his studio for a while. I heard that they already fired Eric Avery because of negotiations issues. If I had more info I would let you know. Also, he has moved out of Courtney's house to another rented house over in the Valley....Sierra lives out there and he will be closer to the studio and to her. He met Sierra though Linda Perry who is producing Courtney's album. She's supposed to be really nice and talented. So.....there you go.

mpp 08-15-2006 03:20 PM

machina was released on February 29, 2000

ratking17 08-15-2006 03:22 PM

Harrow, you seem to know all things Corgan right now. Can you hook us up with some pics? If you know avery is out, then who is in?

Cherub Angel 08-15-2006 03:24 PM

Interesting but not really a surprising choice when you think about it. This guy produced Cheap Trick and Queen, thos are some bands Corgan is a fan of. Hell, this producer was the guy who produced fucking "Bohemian Rhapsody", I'm happy.

benjamin619 08-15-2006 03:30 PM

good news. everything i've heard about the new records makes it seem like it's aiming for popularity.

Kahlo 08-15-2006 03:34 PM

they are in a studio somewhere. hoorah.

davin 08-15-2006 03:35 PM

most of the machina2 stuff was recorded around the same time as machina1, (see: http://www.spfc.org/band/studio.html?session_id=43 and http://www.spfc.org/band/studio.html?session_id=44) so if you agree that they are referring to the last time they were in the studio, not including the Untitled and "finishing touches" 2000 sessions for Machina2 material, then it almost makes sense.




:erm: ok, you're right...it makes no sense.

Kahlo 08-15-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrow
I live in LA and we have seen Billy around here sometimes - esp in the West Hollywood area. As far as the source - one of my friends works with Kerry who is D'arcy's ex and they were working in his studio for a while. I heard that they already fired Eric Avery because of negotiations issues. If I had more info I would let you know. Also, he has moved out of Courtney's house to another rented house over in the Valley....Sierra lives out there and he will be closer to the studio and to her. He met Sierra though Linda Perry who is producing Courtney's album. She's supposed to be really nice and talented. So.....there you go.

wow I feel I can talk now :)


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