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harrow 08-15-2006 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Floppy Nono
great to hear this news but still...what about mister james iha?
James was approached several times to come back to the mix but he declined - for now. The songwriting process is done and they are just recording now - and JAMES IS NOT in the studio. Whether he comes back to the band during the touring stages is a possibility but completely BOGUS because he had nothing to do with the making of the album. :smoke:

Pretzel Logic 08-15-2006 05:49 PM
SP is going to sound soooo 80s with this producer

davin 08-15-2006 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by harrow
James was approached several times to come back to the mix but he declined - for now. The songwriting process is done and they are just recording now - and JAMES IS NOT in the studio. Whether he comes back to the band during the touring stages is a possibility but completely BOGUS because he had nothing to do with the making of the album. :smoke:
i heard james was there during the rehearsal sessions with Avery. Any truth to that?

TumoraXsault 08-15-2006 05:54 PM
most likely, it will be all four original members

i cant prove it, i have no info to show

but you did hear it here first

feel free to quote me and if im wrong forever haunt me

harrow 08-15-2006 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davin
i heard james was there during the rehearsal sessions with Avery. Any truth to that?

Never.

wHATcOLOR 08-15-2006 06:19 PM
hey harrow, can you pass along my recommendation of paul hem as fill-in bassist? thx bro

ratking17 08-15-2006 06:42 PM
Who is Harrow and how does he know so much?

Nimrod's Son 08-15-2006 06:44 PM
This is as much Zwan as Smashing Pumpkins. I can't believe so many of you are being fooled by Corgan's lame-ass tricks

transluscent 08-15-2006 06:48 PM
we've been saying that since it was announced.

no iha/wretzky, no sp

Fathoms (unadored) 08-15-2006 06:56 PM
Right, cause the first thing everyone thinks about when they hear Corgan/Chamberlin is Zwan.

harrow 08-15-2006 07:10 PM
I think the music will be good but its hard to have those famous SP dynamics w/o BC having someone to play off of in the studio - should be interesting.

douglas78 08-15-2006 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TumoraXsault
most likely, it will be all four original members

i cant prove it, i have no info to show

but you did hear it here first

feel free to quote me and if im wrong forever haunt me

:D

RenewRevive 08-15-2006 07:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by harrow
James was approached several times to come back to the mix but he declined - for now. The songwriting process is done and they are just recording now - and JAMES IS NOT in the studio. Whether he comes back to the band during the touring stages is a possibility but completely BOGUS because he had nothing to do with the making of the album. :smoke:
:Skeptical

No offence, but I'm filing this one under "internet rumour" for the time being. It'd bum me out if James isn't involved, but until the lineup is made official I will live in hope.

Travis_Wright 08-15-2006 07:22 PM
i think james is there, and until someone shows me a picture of him sitting on a boat off the coast of australia drunk off his ass, i'll stick to my james iha is in the pumpkins story.

billy, eric, jimmy, james, and a dash of melissa GOD DAMNIT

RenewRevive 08-15-2006 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corganist
I'm just excited that its someone who hasn't worked with the band before. I'd have been disappointed if it were self-produced, or if someone like Flood or Bjorn Thorsrud had been tapped.
Agreed. I'm not exactly sure what impact Flood had on Machina compared to MCIS - so little comment on the interplay between him and Billy with regard to choices for the album. I think he needs someone with experience, flexibility and a strong opinion - so this guy seems to fit the bill OK. Also, Flood was often opposed to any metal oriented tracks on MCIS (TAFH, Marquis, Mouths of Babes), so this may be an indicator of the album's direction.

ratking17 08-15-2006 07:44 PM
Again, I am curious as to whom Harrow is and how he knows so much insider info? I am not discrediting him, I just want to know..

douglas78 08-15-2006 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratking17
Again, I am curious as to whom Harrow is and how he knows so much insider info? I am not discrediting him, I just want to know..
HERE U GO

Quote:
Originally Posted by harrow
I live in LA and we have seen Billy around here sometimes - esp in the West Hollywood area. As far as the source - one of my friends works with Kerry who is D'arcy's ex and they were working in his studio for a while. I heard that they already fired Eric Avery because of negotiations issues. If I had more info I would let you know. Also, he has moved out of Courtney's house to another rented house over in the Valley....Sierra lives out there and he will be closer to the studio and to her. He met Sierra though Linda Perry who is producing Courtney's album. She's supposed to be really nice and talented. So.....there you go.

Pretzel Logic 08-15-2006 07:53 PM
Fuck the new pumpkins. already i don't like them. corgan is washed up

douglas78 08-15-2006 07:54 PM
shut up newman

ratking17 08-15-2006 07:57 PM
So Harrow lives in LA (small town), has a friend of Darcy's ex (being that Darcy is privy to up to date info), heard through the grapevine Eric is fired (Darcy's ex, though he works in the studio knows contract issues), etc...etc...etc...
I want to believe him cuz this would be awesome to know all this inside info, but I am just looking to believe in something with a little more credence to it...

wHATcOLOR 08-15-2006 08:04 PM
well d'arcy doesn't necessarily need to be in the communication loop for Kerry to have info.. if i'm not mistaken his band was on scratchie, of which james is part owner. also, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that he'd have stayed in touch with any number of people affiliated with the pumpkins..

ratking17 08-15-2006 08:09 PM
Sure anything is possible, but how many people claim/have claimed that they have inside info? I just am wondering why the tease with little tidbits of information when all we want is some confirmation on key aspects such as who is in the band etc...If someone has such detailed information as to where a recording session is taking place, then it would be safe to assume that that said person would also know who was going into these sessions. Is is just Billy and Jimmy as some suspect or are there more involved here? That is why I am suspicious of any info...

Reyngel 08-15-2006 08:16 PM
By the way, who says Flood won't be involved? Couldn't he do a lot of the mixing later on down the line?

wHATcOLOR 08-15-2006 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratking17
Sure anything is possible, but how many people claim/have claimed that they have inside info? I just am wondering why the tease with little tidbits of information when all we want is some confirmation on key aspects such as who is in the band etc...If someone has such detailed information as to where a recording session is taking place, then it would be safe to assume that that said person would also know who was going into these sessions. Is is just Billy and Jimmy as some suspect or are there more involved here? That is why I am suspicious of any info...

oh absolutely, i agree. i was just making the point that it's not required that d'arcy be up to date on events. i think we both are viewing this the same way, it'd be foolish to take everything at face value

douglas78 08-15-2006 09:00 PM
i have insider info.


my assumptions

Orenthal James 08-15-2006 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZackZ
I guess it could go either way.
stunning conclusion, zackz.

this news makes me happy.

benjamin619 08-15-2006 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZackZ
Ya, that's really great. Oh wait, have you heard the Zwan album? I think that was the same idea. Billy can't write for shit if he's actually trying, or it just doesn't come out very cohesive. Zwan and his solo album are good examples. I personally think both endeavors offered some great music, but a lot of it seems forced.
bullshit. the only two times he tried to make popular, epic rock records he came up with Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. Zwan was the pursuit of something new, in the form of scratchy-60's records. the solo album certainly was not an example of corgan trying to write popular songs. what's wrong with you? go kill yourself and that stupid cat in your avatar..

myosis 08-15-2006 10:33 PM
mr. baker seems to have an inclination for recording live effects instead of doing a shitload of mixing. this might be a good thing.

chouchou 08-15-2006 11:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherub Angel
Interesting but not really a surprising choice when you think about it. This guy produced Cheap Trick and Queen, thos are some bands Corgan is a fan of. Hell, this producer was the guy who produced fucking "Bohemian Rhapsody", I'm happy.
my thoughts EXACTLY.

this is gonna be some sweet shit.

:banging:

Cherub Angel 08-16-2006 12:24 AM
it's the first time in a while that Corgan has used a brand new producer instead of one of the people we all know to be his in house, go-to-guys [i.e Bjorn, Flood, Alan Moulder, etc.].

I am also fairly skeptical about internet rumors, etc......I'm going to wait and see on this one.


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