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MyOneAndOnly 06-16-2017 03:30 PM

Firefly

B

This is a spanish language film shot in Columbia. It tells the store of two women who bond over a the unexpected death of a handsome young guy. The first is the dead man's sister, the other is his fiance. Of course, sharing their grief leads to them becoming lovers.

This is streaming now on Amazon Prime

FoolofaTook 06-16-2017 05:59 PM

Ghost World. B+

Cool film.

FlamingGlobes 06-17-2017 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4365265)
Ghost World. B+

Cool film.

That movie is A+ just for the scene where Steve Buscemi rages in his car at the family crossing the street.

FoolofaTook 06-17-2017 08:36 PM

The Holy Mountain A+++

Watched this shit on 100 mgs of thc. Whallah!

Disco King 06-20-2017 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4365265)
Ghost World. B+

Cool film.

I love Ghost World. It seems like it's going to be another teen movie about the cynical sarcastic misfit underdog who you're supposed to root for because her character and integrity make her a better person than all the "plastic popular kids" or whatever, but then it deconstructs that trope by showing how much it would actually stunt one's development to hide one's insecurities behind those sorts of shields. It's a nice depiction of that aspect of growing up where you just kind of drift away from longtime friends you thought you'd know forever because your lives start diverging at that transitional point. Johansson's character emotionally matures from her "teen angst" stage, leaving Birch's character behind.

It's a great adaptation of the comic. It's one of those adaptations where you don't resent the changes made from the source material, because they are good in their own right, and now you have two different enjoyable stories, rather than one good story told in two media.

Speaking of comic-book adaptations that make a lot of changes to the source material that end up working for the film-- I just saw Wonder Woman, and damn, I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did. Especially when every other DCEU film so far has been shit. And the fact that the movie has so many credited writers that you know it went through 167 rewrites and suspect it was written by committee.

The film doesn't feel like that at all. It feels like a much more singular vision than any of the Snyder DCEU films, which don't really seem to understand cohesive narrative and think that a series of slick-looking sequences makes for a good movie. Every scene is actually doing some work in contributing to the themes and the arc, and there's no dumb Hawkman cameo that's only there to advertise the next film. Snyder's fingerprints can be seen in the fight choreography (which is one of the few things he does competently) and the colour grading, but everything else is so different that you know this was Jenkin's baby, unlike those cookie-cutter Marvel Studios films, in which the directors and screenwriters are more like Subway "sandwich artists" than anything.

SPOILERS

I liked how the film played with the idea that the world isn't so simple that killing the bad guy will make every problem go away, but I also feel that it then it undercuts that by having Wonder Woman kill Aries, after which World War I goes away. Would have served the theme better if the war continued, leaving us with the thought that even though the world wasn't saved, something good was accomplished, and in the real world, that's the best one can hope for. Kind of that "you can't save all the starfish" parable. Would have also been worthwhile to hint at the fact that the sanctions the Allies imposed on Germany after the war weren't exactly a positive thing.

Though this isn't the most realistic war movie, it did portray it a lot more earnestly than you'd expect from the genre, touching on the horrors of modern war (mustard gas being central to the plot), imagery of war injury, PTSD, and civilian casualties. I was expecting that this was going to be a riff off of that Captain America movie, but it was far superior. I was hopeful that using WWI instead of WWII would make the conflict less clear-cut, and not a case of "Allied Heroes vs. Nazi Villains." But even though they tried to do that a little bit, in the end, it pretty much was "Allied Heroes vs. German Villains."

Doctor Poison is a villain that I've always thought has a very interesting look and premise, but she's not actually in very many interesting stories in the comics. This film's interpretation of her was great, though. Even though she was a secondary villain, she was far more terrifying than the main one.

The changes to the Wonder Woman lore also suited the film. The whole thing about "Aries killing the gods because he hates mankind and Wonder Woman being created as a weapon against him" isn't quite how it is in the comics, but it works better in this film than a more faithful origin would. I'm all for faithfulness to the source material, but the number one goal is to make a good movie. And if the movie is better served by playing loose with some of the mythology, go right ahead, I say.

Even though I love superhero comics, very few superhero films are what I'd think of as "good films." Something like Iron Man, it's certainly not a bad film and it's a satisfying watch, but it's nothing to write home about. Something like Man of Steel is just a bad film. But Wonder Woman joins Nolan's first two Batman films, Spider-Man 2, and the Donner Superman movies as films that I'd say aren't just "good superhero films," but "good films."

Disco King 06-20-2017 03:36 AM

Double post

Disco King 06-20-2017 03:44 AM

Little things that bothered me, though:
  • 8-year-old Diana- Western Anglo accent
  • 12-year-old and adult Diana- Israeli accent
  • Diana's mom- Western Anglo accent
  • Diana's aunt- Israeli accent (actor's Dainish, but it sounds like she was trying to match Gadot's accent; maybe I just suck at placing accents, though)

The fuck?

Also, when they are training with swords... real swords... isn't there the very real possibility that one could kill the other? Seems like training should be non-lethal preparation for lethal predicaments. Unless they were holding back and weren't trying very hard to kill each other. In which case, what was the purpose of training if they were doing it half-assed? That's not much of preparation for... anything.

Swords are weird in this movie in general. I could swear that when the Germans were storming Themyscira, they clearly showed the Amazons attacking them with swords, but nobody ever got cut. Swords are just blunt batons in this universe, unless you're made of CGI. I understand that this is a PG-13 movie and I don't expect to see entrails and decapitated heads, but you'd think if they wanted to keep blood to a minimum while still doing sword stuff, they'd just pull the camera away every time somebody was slashed or stabbed. No, they still show it, but people just fall down for some reason.

Also, Angryman vs. Sadman: Yawn of Justice seemed to imply that Wonder Woman had given up on humanity. The beginning of Wonder Woman seemed to imply the same. This would explain why nobody's heard of her since WWI and she didn't show up when aliens destroyed a city.

But the film doesn't end with her being like "so after that, I gave up on humanity and went home and watched Netflix. Got a call saying that there's now a SECOND world war, can you fucking believe these guys? Told the dude IDGF I live on a magic island." It ends with her being all "I will continue to be a superhero and fight for my ideals etc." So, uh, how does that fit.

LaBelle 06-20-2017 05:01 AM

I wouldn't mind living in the wonder woman island.

Disco King 06-20-2017 05:22 AM

One thing I like about the original Wonder Woman comics is that Themyscira isn't depicted as some anachronistic island where everybody is stuck in Ancient Greece. It seems logical that, just as the outside world developed new technologies in the thousands of years since antiquity, so would the Amazons. But the development of technology would diverge from the outside world's because of the separation causing parallel lines of advancement. Paradise Island was scientifically advanced in the old comics. People still dressed ancient-like and the architecture was still ancient-like, but they created a lot of devices and shit.

Since then, it's kinda just been "Themyscira has an ancient culture and hasn't changed in those thousands of years" in the comics. Grant Morrison kinda went back to the more sci-fi Themyscira for his alternate-universe take, though.

I guess this is just a minor thing, but I always thought it would be cool if there was a variety of body types on Themyscira, instead of everybody having similar slender builds. I mean, everybody would be fit and athletic, but bodies trained for different strengths look different. Some Amazons would look like they are built for powerlifting. Others, for gymnastics. Others yet, for sprinting or long-jumping.

I guess I did like how they didn't go the Sucker Punch route and make the Amazons just a bunch of hot chicks who primarily serve to be titillating while being passed off as "empowering." I mean, it's still a Hollywood movie, so everybody there was of above-average attractiveness, but they weren't dolled-up tarts, either. There were older women, women without the most traditionally feminine of faces, etc.

teh b0lly!!1 06-20-2017 06:16 AM

DK u might be new here n stuff, so i guess nobody told you, but typing walls of words about movies is MY thing. MINE.

u better stop doing it or we're going to have a problem.

Cool As Ice Cream 06-20-2017 07:11 AM

YEAH

Disco King 06-20-2017 01:54 PM

And so began the War of Words that destroyed Netphoria. Each side erected walls of texts for their own defense, but it was ultimately their undoing, as the text grew so large that all the server space was eaten up, and the forum collapsed.

ohnoitsbonnie 06-20-2017 01:57 PM

No one can construct a run on sentence w/ no period or necessary punctuation like esteemed poster oh no it's is bonnie

teh b0lly!!1 06-20-2017 02:22 PM

must spread rep

myosis 06-20-2017 02:24 PM

it's is my life jon bovi

ohnoitsbonnie 06-20-2017 02:30 PM

meta

Tchocky 06-22-2017 07:15 PM

Had Solo movie directors replaced by LucasFilm retread Opie Cunningham.

Bleccch.

ohnoitsbonnie 06-22-2017 07:17 PM

Strong feelings about an old bald rich man

FlamingGlobes 06-22-2017 08:34 PM

Well, they lost the directors of the Fucking Lego Movie, so there's really nowhere to go but up.

TuralyonW3 06-23-2017 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4365552)
The Holy Mountain A+++

Watched this shit on 100 mgs of thc. Whallah!

Hell of a film that

el Topo kind of let me down by comparison when I saw it afterward

I need to see santa sangre

TuralyonW3 06-23-2017 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4366013)
Little things that bothered me, though:
  • 8-year-old Diana- Western Anglo accent
  • 12-year-old and adult Diana- Israeli accent
  • Diana's mom- Western Anglo accent
  • Diana's aunt- Israeli accent (actor's Dainish, but it sounds like she was trying to match Gadot's accent; maybe I just suck at placing accents, though)

The fuck?

Also, when they are training with swords... real swords... isn't there the very real possibility that one could kill the other? Seems like training should be non-lethal preparation for lethal predicaments. Unless they were holding back and weren't trying very hard to kill each other. In which case, what was the purpose of training if they were doing it half-assed? That's not much of preparation for... anything.

Swords are weird in this movie in general. I could swear that when the Germans were storming Themyscira, they clearly showed the Amazons attacking them with swords, but nobody ever got cut. Swords are just blunt batons in this universe, unless you're made of CGI. I understand that this is a PG-13 movie and I don't expect to see entrails and decapitated heads, but you'd think if they wanted to keep blood to a minimum while still doing sword stuff, they'd just pull the camera away every time somebody was slashed or stabbed. No, they still show it, but people just fall down for some reason.

Also, Angryman vs. Sadman: Yawn of Justice seemed to imply that Wonder Woman had given up on humanity. The beginning of Wonder Woman seemed to imply the same. This would explain why nobody's heard of her since WWI and she didn't show up when aliens destroyed a city.

But the film doesn't end with her being like "so after that, I gave up on humanity and went home and watched Netflix. Got a call saying that there's now a SECOND world war, can you fucking believe these guys? Told the dude IDGF I live on a magic island." It ends with her being all "I will continue to be a superhero and fight for my ideals etc." So, uh, how does that fit.

Uhh, what the hell are you talking about with the accents? No

I do also wonder Wtf Dina a has been up to since WWI

TuralyonW3 06-23-2017 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4366924)
Well, they lost the directors of the Fucking Lego Movie, so there's really nowhere to go but up.

Lego movie was funny, entertaining, and visually impressive, plus a huge critical and financial success

I haven't seen them but the jump street films were well reviewed as well

This is why they were fired:

http://epicstream.com/news/Han-Solo-...d-Chris-Miller

TuralyonW3 06-23-2017 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4366025)
One thing I like about the original Wonder Woman comics is that Themyscira isn't depicted as some anachronistic island where everybody is stuck in Ancient Greece. It seems logical that, just as the outside world developed new technologies in the thousands of years since antiquity, so would the Amazons. But the development of technology would diverge from the outside world's because of the separation causing parallel lines of advancement. Paradise Island was scientifically advanced in the old comics. People still dressed ancient-like and the architecture was still ancient-like, but they created a lot of devices and shit.

Since then, it's kinda just been "Themyscira has an ancient culture and hasn't changed in those thousands of years" in the comics. Grant Morrison kinda went back to the more sci-fi Themyscira for his alternate-universe take, though..

Yup:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Ray

FoolofaTook 06-23-2017 05:37 PM

Black Jesus B+

Just watched the first five episodes. There are times when the dialogue is a little clunky but usual its fine and there are times when its brilliant. Great characters. If any of you liked the Boondocks you should check this out.

FoolofaTook 06-23-2017 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 4367027)
Hell of a film that

el Topo kind of let me down by comparison when I saw it afterward

I need to see santa sangre

Yeah I got to watch more of his stuff. Holy Mtn was ridiculous. And so bizarre. If I watched that on psychedelics I would lose my mind. I watched it on 100 mgs of thc and almost lost it heh.

FoolofaTook 06-23-2017 05:42 PM

Oh I forgot to add that Black Jesus is full of lots and lots and lots of Jesus jokes.

:)

FlamingGlobes 06-23-2017 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 4367030)
Lego movie was funny, entertaining, and visually impressive, plus a huge critical and financial success

I haven't seen them but the jump street films were well reviewed as well

This is why they were fired:

http://epicstream.com/news/Han-Solo-...d-Chris-Miller

I get that people enjoyed it, but I fucking hated every last minute of it. It felt like 90 minutes of listening to some over-caffeinated kid go apeshit inside of a grocery store.

LaBelle 06-23-2017 06:38 PM

I love animation and even I avoided the Lego stuff.

LaBelle 06-23-2017 06:39 PM

I'll build my fortress out of lego tho.

FlamingGlobes 06-23-2017 08:17 PM

I liked a lot of the Lego videogames. Star Wars OG Trilogy and the first two Lego Batmen were legit.


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