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pale_princess 12-16-2018 08:36 PM

What if Netphoria vs. Sadmachines, but Weezer?
 
We are Leslie Jones, obvi ;)



ps fuzzy pls don't derail this into you defending post-pinkerton Weezer

fuzzyroes 12-16-2018 08:45 PM

heh, I just saw this. Funny piece!

AveryLoren 12-16-2018 09:20 PM

Damn, funny SNL WITH Leslie Jones? Hell has finally froze over.

Insight_Scoop 12-16-2018 09:26 PM

Weezer actually does have netphoria/sad machine equivalents.

reprise85 12-16-2018 10:00 PM

lol this part too


redbreegull 12-16-2018 10:02 PM

"yes, and then they became the worst band of all time"

Shallowed 12-16-2018 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insight_Scoop (Post 4489213)
Weezer actually does have netphoria/sad machine equivalents.

I would be surprised, even shocked, if they didn't.

johncg 12-16-2018 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4489223)
"yes, and then they became the worst band of all time"

I really felt this on a spiritual level. Netphoria in a nutshell.

johncg 12-16-2018 10:38 PM

Also, Weezer really did die when Matt Sharp left. Anyone who thinks differently should be shot.

TuralyonW3 12-16-2018 10:59 PM

Yeah this sketch is solid fucking gold

Raskolnikov 12-16-2018 11:56 PM

We don't pay for cable at my place - but our over the air antenna gets 2 channels, one of which is NBC. Last night we flipped on the TV, forgot it was on - and it was tuned to live tv, which it rarely is - see "two channels" - and ended up watching most of SNL for the first time in I couldn't even tell you how long.

When this skit's whole thing became clear, my wife and I were loving it. Such deep talk that I'm sure was lost on the great majority of viewers.

Key line: "You're a grown ass man, and you're bringing up stuff from Hurley?"

Gold.

pale_princess 12-16-2018 11:59 PM

^ yeah, those who got it, GOT IT!!!

Have you and your wife seen the movie Juliet, Naked? It's a well-done romcom with a great insight into fan culture for past-their-prime musicians, you guys would love it. One of my faves of the year.

Shallowed 12-17-2018 12:33 AM

Just watched this. God, it's so corny. I get that it's supposed to be, but GOD it's SO corny.

D. 12-17-2018 02:13 AM

my best friend sent me a link to this and i love it with all my heart and soul

D. 12-17-2018 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pale_princess (Post 4489234)
^ yeah, those who got it, GOT IT!!!

Have you and your wife seen the movie Juliet, Naked? It's a well-done romcom with a great insight into fan culture for past-their-prime musicians, you guys would love it. One of my faves of the year.

i'm gonna put this on my "to watch" list now

fun fact: conor oberst has a new song in this movie, in case anyone cares about conor oberst in 2018 (i do.)

emilem 12-17-2018 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insight_Scoop (Post 4489213)
Weezer actually does have netphoria/sad machine equivalents.

nah, weezer fans are pretty chill. there used to be a nethoria equivalent but that was like 11 years ago and it was called weezernation. i think most of the snarky people moved on. so there's hope for all of us here.

LaBelle 12-17-2018 04:01 AM

but weezer had openly misogynistic and even pedo lyrics from the jump.

they were never good.

At least billy didn't put some of his worst thoughts into songs so people can claim the whole separate art from artist, i'll give him that.

Corgan's Bluff 12-17-2018 06:56 AM

Lousy comeback in "Africa":






Jimmy should show his drum skills in "Rosanna":



via GIPHY


Funbags 12-17-2018 07:36 AM

I can't stand their Africa cover. It's the musical equivalent of Pickle Rick.

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 09:02 AM

i don't really listen to Weezer much but Green Album was good, peeps can fuck off w/ this "nothing was good post-Pinkerton" shit

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 09:07 AM

anyway, skit's pretty funny - surprised something this niche made it to air but 1 point for modern SNL i suppose

fuzzyroes 12-17-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaBelle (Post 4489276)
but weezer had openly misogynistic and even pedo lyrics from the jump.

they were never good.

At least billy didn't put some of his worst thoughts into songs so people can claim the whole separate art from artist, i'll give him that.

It's art. It's okay if it's uncomfortable subject matter. The pure unbridled honesty is part of what makes Pinkerton so special.

brothahi4L 12-17-2018 10:46 AM

Can anyone explain me what sadmachines exactly is besides some hardcore fanbase? Are they crawling into billys ass, stalking him or sending xmas cards to jupitter?

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 11:11 AM

^ yes to all

LaBelle 12-17-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes (Post 4489342)
It's art. It's okay if it's uncomfortable subject matter. The pure unbridled honesty is part of what makes Pinkerton so special.

Lol of course you'd say that.

And of course you identify with it, it's incelcore at it's finest.

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 11:24 AM

i preferred "incelcore at its finest," but you do you

LaBelle 12-17-2018 11:25 AM

Fixed

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 11:26 AM

thx

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 11:27 AM

& i wanna say billy has put some of his worst thoughts on paper, and into tracks, but i guess we already have that one lyric thread for that :stan:

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 11:27 AM

lord knows the Lord doesn't need further blasphemy seeping out into other threads!

FlamingGlobes 12-17-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaBelle (Post 4489352)
Lol of course you'd say that.

And of course you identify with it, it's incelcore at it's finest.

Judging something from 1996 through the lens of 2018 is a fruitless endeavor. Just sayin'.

LaBelle 12-17-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4489366)
Judging something from 1996 through the lens of 2018 is a fruitless endeavor. Just sayin'.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people called this band out for these reasons many times over in the past. I've seen/heard it a bunch over the years.

So your argument holds no water.

pale_princess 12-17-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. (Post 4489253)
i'm gonna put this on my "to watch" list now

fun fact: conor oberst has a new song in this movie, in case anyone cares about conor oberst in 2018 (i do.)

you'll love it!!!

Rose Byrne, Chris O'Dowd & Ethan Hawke are all so charming in it.

johncg 12-17-2018 01:25 PM

Artists tend to be messed up people with messed up thoughts. And doing their art is much healthier than acting out those thoughts. I think of Eminem. I’d rather him be a psycho killer behind a mic than in real life. If I didn’t have my music as an outlet I’d probably have killed someone by now...Ani Difranco and Eddie Veddar have literally said the same.

Let artists art. If it makes you uncomfortable, just move on.

johncg 12-17-2018 01:31 PM

(By the way, I’m totally down with critiquing things through a feminist lens...so I hear the criticisms of Pinkerton loud and clear. But part of third wave feminism is the realization that one ought to have the freedom to choose what’s empowering for them. That’s why we stopped being anti-porn as feminists a long time ago and also have come to accept that there is room in feminism for being a housewife or having a very stereotypical hetero relationship or BDSM, etc etc. Yes, all of those things can be degrading in some contexts. But they can also be empowering depending on the person and the situation.)

LaBelle 12-17-2018 01:39 PM

People just like to get offended when something they like gets called out as being misogynistic because they think it reflects poorly on them as people.

Newsflash, it doesn't have to, you can even continue to enjoy something while recognizing how some aspects of it are shitty or don't hold up over time.

pale_princess 12-17-2018 01:40 PM

Yeah I didn't really want this thread to derail into Weezer stuff, just more wanted us to all have a laugh at ourselves. Rivers' fetishizing of young women/teenage girls of Asian descent is well-documented and gross.

But honestly the parallels of post-Pinkerton Weezer & post-Y2K SP and its fanbases are pretty hilarious. Like, the disconnect from songs like Only In Dreams and Starla to butt-rock jokes like Hash Pipe and Tarantula!

johncg 12-17-2018 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaBelle (Post 4489375)
People just like to get offended when something they like gets called out as being misogynistic because they think it reflects poorly on them as people.

Newsflash, it doesn't have to, you can even continue to enjoy something while recognizing how some aspects of it are shitty or don't hold up over time.

Nailed it.

Same thing when you point out racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.

Mals Marola 12-17-2018 02:25 PM

I think the main thing that ever makes me "raise a brow" to lyrics or whatever is when it's ambiguous as to whether the artist himself even realizes the uh, questionable nature of what they're singing. Like with Em it was pretty obvious he was fucking with people; shit like the Weezer song & that fuckin' Guns & Roses tune where he just casually throws out the n word, not so much

on the other hand, so long as it doesn't seep out into actual real life behavior, who cares

MonumentsRocks 12-17-2018 02:28 PM

The fact that this thread has devolved into what it has become demonstrates why the SNL skit funny in the first place.

I'm glad I never got into Weezer, I think any enjoyment I'd get from their music wouldn't be offset by worrying about when there music started sucking, if it ever sucked, if it ever didnt suck etc. I could say the same about SP but alas it's too late now.


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