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fuzzyroes 12-17-2018 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11 (Post 4489485)
This track was as good as anything on the 1st two albums:

Yeah man, great tune! For as much shit as Raditude gets, I genuinely like about 5 of the songs... So it's not a bad ratio for me.

This songs awesome too. It was a reworked outtake. Vintage Weezer goodness



So as much as Weezer hasn't lived up to their initial awesomeness, their output has still manged to be miles ahead of Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgan IMHO

fuzzyroes 12-17-2018 10:34 PM

The thing with Billy Corgan is that the mixing has been total shit for so a lot of the post-2000 material... It's something that has never really plagued Rivers.

FoolofaTook 12-17-2018 10:47 PM

this thread blows

FoolofaTook 12-17-2018 10:47 PM

good job fuzzy

Elphenor 12-17-2018 10:52 PM

Pinkerton still bops

fuzzyroes 12-17-2018 11:01 PM

Amen brother.





:rockon::rockon::rockon:

Rivers>>> B0lly

Eulogy 12-17-2018 11:43 PM

Green album is garbage.

Blue and Pinkerton are good. Everything else I’ve heard is bad. Beverly Hills is one of the worst songs ever.

Eulogy 12-17-2018 11:43 PM

Oh and actually that whole snl episode is pretty solid.

redbreegull 12-17-2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4489508)
Blue and Pinkerton are good. Everything else I’ve heard is bad. Beverly Hills is one of the worst songs ever.

Yes. beverly hills is as bad as teargarden and it was a big hit that everyone knows about. actually way more embarrassing

Elphenor 12-18-2018 12:39 AM

I always associate it with Nickleback

Funbags 12-18-2018 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4489508)
Green album is garbage.

Blue and Pinkerton are good. Everything else I’ve heard is bad. Beverly Hills is one of the worst songs ever.

I always thought Beverly Hills sounded like The Joker by Steve Miller Band, and it turns out there's a reason for that:

Rivers' songwriting technique literally involves copying a progression from a preexisting hit and then singing a new melody that he later fills in with random lyrics from a spreadsheet.

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4489508)
Green album is garbage.

you know, you had the right idea with Koi No Yokan, but this opinion right here... well... i don't like it much at all! :beatup:

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 12:59 AM

it's just a perfect little 30 min pop/rock record, i can't imagine what kind of cold hell 1 would have to be living in to hate it so... but sincerely, i hope you haters all find a way!

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 01:00 AM

& yeah, frankly - from afar at least - Weezer seem like a much more enjoyable band to be into in 2018 than Smashing Crumpkins

Raskolnikov 12-18-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes (Post 4489499)

Top shelf Weezer here. My personal favorite jam from their whole catalog.

FlamingGlobes 12-18-2018 07:47 AM

When it comes to post-Pinkerton, the only albums worth talking about are The White Album and EWBAITE. Both are wayyy better than they had any right to be. Shame they went right back to making absolutely shit music.

FlamingGlobes 12-18-2018 07:49 AM

And fuzzy, stop cherry picking shit from the other albums and pretending everything is ok. Shit is shit. Just because you find a few kernels of corn in said shit doesn't mean you should indulge.

johncg 12-18-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4489515)
Yes. beverly hills is as bad as teargarden and it was a big hit that everyone knows about. actually way more embarrassing

You know what though? At least “Beverly Hills” makes enough sense that people want to listen to it. What the hell was Billy thinking releasing a single with “I WILL BE....SPECIAL K” in the chorus. From that perspective, Rivers is winning.

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 08:55 AM

At least with shit like "Beverly Hills" and most Weezer songs, really, you get the impression they're at least partially tongue & cheek. You think Billy's giggling about Widow Wake My Mind?

johncg 12-18-2018 09:15 AM

True...that too.

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 09:19 AM

i think the special k thing was just him hijacking something he heard on a Placebo song 10 years prior, tbh. except when bill sings it it's about the fucking cereal

FoolofaTook 12-18-2018 10:08 AM

weezer sucks in a different way. they suck more like foo fighters. they are successful at sucking.

tsp just sucks. they suck at sucking.

D. 12-18-2018 10:17 AM

i like blue, green, and make believe

fight me 'bout it

D. 12-18-2018 10:18 AM

I will admit that my liking make believe is like 90% nostalgia. B. and I drove around listening to that album (along with a few other choice records) that summer.

FoolofaTook 12-18-2018 10:26 AM

you don't like pinkerton?

Mals Marola 12-18-2018 10:32 AM

why does no one ever talk about Maladroit

it's always just immediate shitting on Green or Make Believe, i've never heard the record but i've rarely heard ABOUT it either

what's the deal, does it even really exist?

D. 12-18-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4489590)
you don't like pinkerton?

not on the whole; a handful of the songs, yeah :smoke:

FoolofaTook 12-18-2018 10:47 AM

i liked maladroit back when i used to listen to weezer. it was the album of theirs that i bought

Funbags 12-18-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola (Post 4489595)
why does no one ever talk about Maladroit

it's always just immediate shitting on Green or Make Believe, i've never heard the record but i've rarely heard ABOUT it either

what's the deal, does it even really exist?

I really like Maladroit. I remember downloading the demos Weezer posted on their website before it was released, and they left off this beaut!


fuzzyroes 12-18-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4489564)
And fuzzy, stop cherry picking shit from the other albums and pretending everything is ok. Shit is shit. Just because you find a few kernels of corn in said shit doesn't mean you should indulge.

For me as a music fan, I'm generally happy if an album has even 2 or 3 songs that I like. It's when a band completely swings and misses that I lose interest. The only 2 Weezer albums where I haven't liked anything have been Make Believe and Hurly. Every other release has at least some good shit.

For me, Weezers definitely gotten more consistent and they've been cranking out albums at a higher frequency which helps as a fan too. Don't get me wrong, there's been a lot of shit too. Some of their recent singles have been total throwaways for me.


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