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I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:35 AM

stupid religious argument
 
i hate it when people say "oh there's just got to be a God, there has to be a higher force. There just has to be".

what kind of an explanation is this.

ammy 03-30-2008 01:38 AM

i hate going to weddings in churches - it makes me very uncomfortable when everyone says things all at once together on secret cues I don't know. And how I feel so evil for not reciting the hymns, prayers, etc along with everyone else.

Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 01:38 AM

dawkins calls this the "argument from personal incredulity"

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Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 01:39 AM

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i hate going to weddings in churches - it makes me very uncomfortable when everyone says things all at once together on secret cues I don't know. And how I feel so evil for not reciting the hymns, prayers, etc along with everyone else.

invasion of the bodysnatchers donald sutherland aaaaahhhhhhhhhh spoiler alert

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:40 AM

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dawkins calls this the "argument from personal incredulity"

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im not reading that book

JapanAlex 03-30-2008 01:40 AM

religion is silllyyy

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:41 AM

THERE JUST HAS 2 BE A GOD I MEAN WHO CREATED US AND WHO CREATED THE EARTH?


there's just got to be, man.

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 01:42 AM

what's wrong with people having personal opinions?

rolmos 03-30-2008 01:44 AM

I'm only bothered by intolerance and dogma.

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:44 AM

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what's wrong with people having personal opinions?

DUDE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE JUST HAS TO BE A GOD! I MEAN.........YEAH, THERE JUST HAS TO BE

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 01:47 AM

yeah, so they have faith in a higher power, i don't see what the problem is here? was this person trying to harass you for not believing (i'm assuming you don't, please correct me if im wrong) or something else of the sort?

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:47 AM

nevermind Floppy Nono, this isnt the thread for you

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 01:49 AM

no no, what is the story behind this person saying this? it seemed to offend you,and i'd like to know the context.

JapanAlex 03-30-2008 01:50 AM

well basically religious people have just been brought up to believe in it

anyone who accepts religion after being an atheist is just weak and needs comfort and a scape-goat imo

i don't care though if someone believes in anything - doesn't bother me - but i just think religious people are just a bit backwards

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:51 AM

its not offensive, its just fucking dumb.


obviously, being non-religious, i am biased. you're going to base your life around it, because THERE JUST HAS TO BE SOMETHING OUT THERE? its completely irrational

Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 01:51 AM

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im not reading that book

not a big reader, huh

Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 01:52 AM

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its not offensive, its just fucking dumb.


obviously, being non-religious, i am biased. you're going to base your life around it, because THERE JUST HAS TO BE SOMETHING OUT THERE? its completely irrational

don't feed the retard

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:52 AM

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not a big reader, huh

yes, i am.

Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 01:54 AM

to be honest, the god delusion is a bit of a slog. the blind watchmaker is much better. it's not really about religion and that helps a lot.

and seriously, for the good of the board, don't feed the retard

Debaser 03-30-2008 01:55 AM

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what kind of an explanation is this.

it's called wishful thinking

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 01:56 AM

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and seriously, for the good of the board, don't feed the retard

i tried

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nevermind Floppy Nono, this isnt the thread for you


JapanAlex 03-30-2008 01:56 AM

god....

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 01:57 AM

well that's part of keeping faith in something that might fail. i'm sure everyone who believes in a religion knows that there is a 50/50 chance that everything they believe in might turn out to be wrong but some people find safety or peace in believing in a better life after death or just need something to guide them in their current life. It's really not easy to say why you believe in a god, it's kind of like trying to explain why we love or why some people like things that others don't. I think it's just something that clicks in some peoples minds and doesn't in others.

I do agree that it can be frustrating to want facts or reasoning from the person but it's something that's impossible to prove.

Debaser 03-30-2008 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Floppy Nono (Post 3215773)
well that's part of keeping faith in something that might fail. i'm sure everyone who believes in a religion knows that there is a 50/50 chance that everything they believe in might turn out to be wrong

You're way underestimating the odds there.

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 02:04 AM

i'm fairly certain if there are only two possible outcomes you have a theoretically even chance of pulling each one.

Luke de Spa 03-30-2008 02:11 AM

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You're way underestimating the odds there.

don't do this. the thing you are trying to reason with is not sane

Floppy Nono 03-30-2008 02:13 AM

sorry you guys, i'll leave your thread alone now. enjoy the peace

metal 03-30-2008 02:13 AM

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tcm 03-30-2008 02:14 AM

hey guys, anybody up for a stupid religious argument?

I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008 02:15 AM

oh shit how do you do that Metal?


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