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toase 01-23-2017 02:34 AM

Goth Rock
 
What are your favorite Gothic tracks?

LaBelle 01-23-2017 07:45 AM


LaBelle 01-23-2017 07:46 AM


toase 01-24-2017 12:19 AM

was not expecting that, but that was a good surprise

I love Cristina Scabbia, shes so gorgeous

KR155Y 01-24-2017 01:09 AM

Bauhaus - Dark Entries
The 69 Eyes - Framed In Blood
Type O Negative - White Slavery
Joy Division - Dead Souls
Paradise Lost - Beneath Black Skies
Tiamat - Cain
The Birthday Massacre - Beyond

teh b0lly!!1 01-24-2017 03:12 AM

October Rust by Type O Negative is still one of my fav albums

toase 01-28-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KR155Y (Post 4313163)
The Birthday Massacre - Beyond



this is pretty interesting, synthpop, with heavy guitars
thanks

:cheers:

toase 01-28-2017 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4313170)
October Rust by Type O Negative is still one of my fav albums

I think I only remember bloody kisses

But this sounds good too



I love that second guitar

FoolofaTook 01-28-2017 10:15 AM

Joy Division is Goth?

Is the Cure goth?


I know nothing (in general and specifically about goth)

Disco King 01-28-2017 11:10 AM

I'd kinda think of Joy Division as a post-punk band that was kinda proto-Goth in the sense that they influenced a lot of Gothic rock and had elements of it in their sound, and the Cure as both a post-punk and Gothic rock band (first album was post-punk, then they slided into Goth, but always kinda did both), but that's just me being pedantic and the distinction doesn't matter a whole lot to me. Gothic rock is pretty much just a subgenre of post-punk, the lines are blurry as fuck, and then you have, like, deathrock and whatever and I don't even know what the difference is between that and Gothic rock (just happens to be slightly campier, like, singing about horror movies and ghouls and vampires and graveyards and shit?)

I dunno, Elphy probably knows this shit (where the fuck has he even been for the last little while?)

In the end, if it sounds good, the name of the genre is "good shit."

My favourite genre is "good shit."

teh b0lly!!1 01-28-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toase (Post 4314550)
I think I only remember bloody kisses

But this sounds good too



I love that second guitar

from everything i listened to, October Rust is the only one truly top shelf album they released. but it really is top quality. i would highly recommend listening to the entire record all the way through - it's one of those. don't be deterred if you're not super buzzed by the first 3-4 songs - the entire second half of the record is fucking amazing.

Disco King 01-29-2017 05:46 PM

Went to that thing at this pub where they play Gothic rock and post-punk last night. This time, I actually went with people. Invited Elph, but he didn't come out. I think he's dead. We were supposed to wear matching leather jackets. He tried to convince me to match with his "post-punk shirt," but I couldn't, because that's not actually a thing. I just wore a "genre: other" shirt.

Disco King 01-29-2017 05:48 PM

And "I'll Stop the World and Melt With Yo - the cure.mp3.exe" shoes.

Disco King 01-29-2017 06:10 PM

I have this weird thing where I don't really love genres, I like a few artists here and there of a given genre. I try to get deeper into the genre after finding a band that plays it that I dig, but find little more that interests me. I just liked the band, not the genre, I guess.

Like, my love of The Banshees compelled me to search for more good Gothic rock. What I got was a bunch of that really-'80s-sounding stuff where all of the snare drums are EQed to sound like somebody hitting a garbage bag with a stick.

I guess Cocteau Twins are considered Gothic? I dunno, I don't even think of genres when listening to Cocteau Twins. Cocteau Twins is just Cocteau Twins.

Liked this one Sex Gang Children album I had, even though it had some filler tracks. Have yet to go deeper into them.

Elphenor 01-30-2017 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4314609)
I'd kinda think of Joy Division as a post-punk band that was kinda proto-Goth in the sense that they influenced a lot of Gothic rock and had elements of it in their sound, and the Cure as both a post-punk and Gothic rock band (first album was post-punk, then they slided into Goth, but always kinda did both)

What's meant by Gothic Rock usually is dark post-punk which is what Joy Division is and The Cure were at first for the most part

The full on Goth Fashion came after Joy Division though I guess

It happens a lot ,but not always, that the bands that play up the fashion aspect suck and are not even playing post punk

Elphenor 01-30-2017 06:40 PM

It pains me that some people's idea of Goth is Type O Negative

Elphenor 01-30-2017 06:42 PM

like Lydia Lunch is No Wave but also Goth because it's dark post punk


Elphenor 01-30-2017 06:48 PM


Elphenor 01-30-2017 06:53 PM

And then I think 80's psychobilly can be goth too because Zombies and Vampires and melodramatic darkness


Elphenor 01-30-2017 07:02 PM

But mostly when people talk about Goth it's all European stuff







etc.

MyOneAndOnly 01-30-2017 07:48 PM

the Cure pre Kiss Me was my favorite. specifically Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography


MyOneAndOnly 01-30-2017 07:55 PM

This Mortal Coil, It will End in Tears. One of my favorite 80s albums



MyOneAndOnly 01-30-2017 08:04 PM

When Tinderbox was released i got it on cassette and wore the tape out in three months listening to it non stop


MyOneAndOnly 01-30-2017 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4314964)
I have this weird thing where I don't really love genres, I like a few artists here and there of a given genre. I try to get deeper into the genre after finding a band that plays it that I dig, but find little more that interests me. I just liked the band, not the genre, I guess.

Like, my love of The Banshees compelled me to search for more good Gothic rock. What I got was a bunch of that really-'80s-sounding stuff where all of the snare drums are EQed to sound like somebody hitting a garbage bag with a stick.

I guess Cocteau Twins are considered Gothic? I dunno, I don't even think of genres when listening to Cocteau Twins. Cocteau Twins is just Cocteau Twins.

Liked this one Sex Gang Children album I had, even though it had some filler tracks. Have yet to go deeper into them.

I never felt Cocteau Twins were "goth." they had an ethereal sound, but it didn't share the tone of the bands that seemed to occupy that space back then.

Elphenor 01-31-2017 10:34 AM

Same

Closer to a proto-shoegaze type of thing

Elphenor 01-31-2017 10:52 AM

20's Scotty sounds so badass

MyOneAndOnly 02-01-2017 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor (Post 4315385)
20's Scotty sounds so badass

teens

twenties Scotty was the 90s

MyOneAndOnly 02-01-2017 08:05 PM

i met the Cocteau Twins in the 80s. They played a show in Detroit. I showed up 8 hrs early with my girlfriend. we walked the back door and sat in the club like we were supposed to be there. We talked briefly to Elizabeth and said hello to Robin. I couldn't believe it.

I met half of Depeche mode in the 90s. Again we showed up early and just walked into the venue, walked back stage and hung out while they did sound checks. I ended up saying Hello to Alan Wilder and Martin Gore.

I met The Sugar Cubes in 88. I drove to Toronto to see them play. Showed up hours early at a club in China Town that was above a fish market. They drove up in their bus and got out and stood around on the street for an hour smoking and chatting waiting for somebody to unload gear. at the time nobody knew who they were. Birthday had just been released in the USA. They were very cool. Very funny. I wanted to hug Bjork the entire time.

MyOneAndOnly 02-01-2017 08:08 PM

I met Morrissey. That's another story and not even remotely goth so not for this thread

MyOneAndOnly 02-01-2017 08:14 PM

I met Billy Bragg in the 80s. i gave him an issue of the Socialist Zine that i started. Thinking about it now it's fucking embarrassing. That thing was like 6 page long and mostly my ramblings and cut and pasted images of things i clipped out of magazines. Like a headless Ronald Reagan, picks of Thatcher with a gun to her head. etc. etc.


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