wow i thought that was pretty great, horrible vocals aside. completely agree about that shuddery quick vibratro thing, but i like the song a lot & the way it's written, i fucking wish he could sing it in a pre-2007 voice. psyched for the new record, glad it's coming out this year
08-22-2017 10:50 AM
This is hot garbage. He's at his worst trying to do a single hook, somehow made worse here by his limp crack at doing "Disarm" again. Bad even by his 2010s standard.
Cool As Ice Cream
08-22-2017 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by Grox
glad it's coming out this year
it wasn't good enough to sit in a can.
08-22-2017 10:56 AM
Originally Posted by AveryLoren
overuse of chord progressions
some Asus2, perhaps?
a few Dsus2 sprinkled about?
a nice shiny Cadd9 to end the measure (and for good measure)?
08-22-2017 11:09 AM
08-22-2017 11:21 AM
song is not terrible, except the vocals. better than anything on MTAE. it sounds like a demo.
most importantly it sounds like he gives a shit in this song, which is nice to hear
08-22-2017 11:24 AM
Song is solid and for once hasn't been killed by over-production. I disagree about the vocals, though they are not his most impressive effort, the vocal performance has a lot more presence than anything off MTAE. I am really looking forward to this album, based on "Aeronaut" and the stated approach it should place somewhere in the top half of Corgan's discography.
08-22-2017 12:07 PM
Not feeling it. I think it's because the vocals, I just get no feeling from them. I think Billy is too focused on sounding "good" and "perfect" that he forgot that it needs to sound sincere and from the soul. I just don't hear that with this. You listen to older acoustic Billy only songs and you feel like he's leaving a piece of his soul on tape. Fragile and imperfect. It is those idiosyncrasies that made those songs what they are. It wasn't about sounding perfect and clean. I feel that sterile-ness sucks out a huge part of this track's heart and soul and honestly most of the later Billy material suffer from this. They end up sounding like Billy going through the motions.
08-22-2017 12:14 PM
^ this is exactly right.
Imagine how crappy Stumbleine would be if he recorded it now. And that's even with great lyrics
08-22-2017 12:28 PM
Sadly, Rick Rubin is a shade of his former self and most likely just a yes man trying to record the perfect top 40 record. Honestly Billy needs someone like Flood in the studio again because he understands how not always sounding perfect can be a song's strength. He knows how certain layering makes a song more powerful and not every little element needs to crystal clear or perfectly delivered. It's the intention behind what you're laying down that comes across the most in a recording.
08-22-2017 12:28 PM
08-22-2017 12:43 PM
I love how his vocals sounded in 2004...very heartfelt:
08-22-2017 01:05 PM
Absolutely stunning song. First time I have heard real emotion in his voice for a whole. You're all deaf or something. Best work I have heard from Billy for a while. Can't stop listening, hope the rest of the album is as brilliant as this.