Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4080924)

The tour for those should be baffling

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Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4081041)

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Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4081041)

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Originally Posted by Belteshazzar (Post 4081316)

I'm guessing this thread might be inspired somewhat by the brief interview where Billy said he doesn't think he has many years left to be touring in front of crowds?

If so, it's a legitimate question as to whether or not he will retire the name or just step down, and what timeline that would occur in.

Especially since the band, as a band, seems to be broken and possibly beyond repair. It seems he's placed himself in a position where he can move on with a few loyal soldiers, but that unit may be an ever changing one.

But while it's realistic to consider the final apocalypse of the band down the road, I wouldn't under-estimate Billy. He's also said, with conviction, that he knows there is a lot more Smashing Pumpkins music to be made. In theory, Smashing Pumpkins is kind of who he is. It's the guise he's most comfortable with for his musical outlets, and I think Billy, as a creative mind, will always be putting out music, probably until the day he dies. Doing that is part of who he is and I don't see him giving that up. Ever. It's entirely possible he could carry the name with him to the grave as an old man...just do acoustic stuff, instrumental stuff, whatever. Who knows.

I'm okay with that. The idea of a living "Smashing Pumpkins" is somehow important to me, whatever form it takes, and even if it's something vastly different from the original version of the 90's or after. People age and their music changes with it - and that's fine.

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar (Post 4081316)

....regarding this stuff about him taking a back role and having a new "Smashing Pumpkins" with all new members....I think he even mentioned writing music for the band or something. I guess you'd have a new band with totally new members, and they could write their own stuff, but Billy would also throw his material in there as well. It could be rock songs or whatever, but I think the idea is that he'd be too old to be rocking on stage anymore. So it'd be a new band that was capable of doing that, but with his spirit in it.

If that's the case though, I almost feel like it would need to be a kind of hybrid-tribute band....change the name to "The Smashing Pumpkins Cult," write original music but also focus on doing musical re-interpretations of SP songs and allowing Billy to throw in a new song of his own now and then. Also, it would be necessary for them to have a great deal of freedom and ownership for it to be seen as legit. No Billy firing people for this that or the other. I could actually get behind that idea. It sounds like a kind of monarchical succession. The idea of the king abdicating and passing the crown on to the heir, but still being around with an advising role. But it'd have to be a legitimately endorsed successor to take the crown. It must have his blessing. In theory, this would effectively build a new band model in which "The Smashing Pumpkins" would gain immortality through succession, as when "The Smashing Pumpkins Cult" band gets too old or whatever, and Billy has already passed away, the band could then choose another successor to pass the crown down to.

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar (Post 4081324)

Understood, and I can relate in ways. I added to my last post though....What about my theory on the monarchical succession of the band? "The Smashing Pumpkins Cult," so to speak?