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Ram27 02-12-2017 12:02 AM

Stumbeline appreciation thread
 
Such a lovely tune

The whole vibe and sense of nostalgia it has is amazing. Love the allusion to Ruby at the end, tying it in thematically with the rest of the album.

The live version we got on the TAFH reissue is probably the best version. Something about that recording is sublime...going from hearing the shitty AUD source with people yelling over it to the nice clean soundboard....it's like a cozy parka in a blizzard.

crabshack 02-12-2017 12:18 AM

This is my favorite SP song

Could have been a proper A/B B-side to 1979

Slurpee 02-12-2017 12:28 AM

One of the purest examples of Billy's songwriting at its peak. Poetic, strange, compelling, beautiful.

bright_doom 02-12-2017 01:32 AM

I love Stumbleine, and I think this guy did a very nice write up of the song.

Quote:

Stumbleine is a demure, rural lullaby, its childlike narrative of horse stables and sea voyages punctuated only by Corgan's voice and a willowy steel acoustic. It's through that quiet simplicity that the track brings Mellon Collie's latent, turn-of-the-century storybook tableaux to the surface, better capturing the albums esoteric fairytale mythology than any of the blustery epics beside it.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/a...pkins-songs/P3

Raskolnikov 02-12-2017 03:36 AM

Killer song. One of those sleeper ones on MCIS that I didn't immediately latch onto, but now see as one of the strongest tracks on disc 2.

Loved the versions of it that he was doing at the In Plainsong shows last year.

qwerty sp 02-12-2017 03:52 AM

Its not amazing

FoolofaTook 02-12-2017 04:09 AM

Stumbeline is sweet. twilight to starlight is my fav sp and stumbeline is essential.

the full band live ones during the charity adore tour were, for lack of a better word, senescent.

FoolofaTook 02-12-2017 04:12 AM

"Nobody nowhere understands anything about me"

Aw shucks! I love that gloomy mcis mood.

vixnix 02-12-2017 10:36 AM

I used to put this on repeat and fall asleep to it when I was 16, on the weekends when I came home drunk and stoned off my face and had to get up to work at the supermarket the next morning.

I felt so shitty going to sleep. Those were the worst nights. It was lifesaving to feel like there was one person in the world who knew what it felt like to need so much from a song.

amoergosum 02-12-2017 12:08 PM

...love this performance >>>



themadcaplaughs 02-12-2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (Post 4319276)
Killer song. One of those sleeper ones on MCIS that I didn't immediately latch onto, but now see as one of the strongest tracks on disc 2.

Loved the versions of it that he was doing at the In Plainsong shows last year.

My thoughts exactly! Billy opened up the show with "Cardinal Rule," but "Stumbleine" was second. The crowd went absolutely nuts, and you could tell Billy was even surprised by the amount of applause a "deep" track like that received.

amoergosum 02-12-2017 01:29 PM


redbreegull 02-12-2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Stumbleine is a demure, rural lullaby, its childlike narrative of horse stables and sea voyages punctuated only by Corgan's voice and a willowy steel acoustic. It's through that quiet simplicity that the track brings Mellon Collie's latent, turn-of-the-century storybook tableaux to the surface, better capturing the albums esoteric fairytale mythology than any of the blustery epics beside it.
this is actually one of the best captures of the vision and aesthetic of MCIS as an album I have ever read

Shadaloo 02-12-2017 03:17 PM

Probably best encapsulates everything about 90's Billy that I miss these days. It's vulnerable, longing, wistful, sentimental, nostalgic, and paints such a great picture.

You could re-light a fire under the guy's ass, and I'd still give him enough credit to be able to churn out some great rockers these days if he were hitting on all cylinders, but I don't think he could ever write anything like Stumbleine again if he tried.

reprise85 02-12-2017 03:32 PM

I really liked Stumbeline when I was a teenager, spoke to me (nobody nowhere understands..."). Not so much now

inkless 02-12-2017 04:47 PM

i prefer classic version like double door

crabshack 02-12-2017 07:46 PM

Probably a dumb question but did anyone else pick up the gynecological reference in "sally's in the stirrups claiming her destiny"?

run2pee 02-12-2017 08:57 PM

Woah, not until just now!! Killer

Classic house of mirrors lyric from bill

Ram27 02-12-2017 09:05 PM

Honestly I always interpreted it gynecologically until literally yesterday when I read that article excerpt about horse stables

reprise85 02-12-2017 09:08 PM

^

crabshack 02-12-2017 09:19 PM

I stole money to buy this vhs bootleg


crabshack 02-12-2017 09:20 PM

not much rhymes with stumbleine except for super queen tbch

Rairun 02-12-2017 10:44 PM

One of his best songs for sure. It conveys the sense of isolation that kids sometimes feel so well, full of longing for things that could be, but no idea how they could ever go from here to there. They have their whole lives ahead of them, but the future is too far down the road; and for the moment they feel powerless, and wistful, and just really lonely.

amoergosum 02-13-2017 06:28 AM

https://j.gifs.com/66vmnl.gif

Corgan's Bluff 02-13-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crabshack (Post 4319560)
I stole money to buy this vhs bootleg


WTF??? :love:???

https://youtu.be/fu5SWcSdyKE?t=3m51s

amoergosum 02-13-2017 06:26 PM

https://j.gifs.com/xGB8kE.gif

cork_soaker 02-13-2017 06:39 PM

hey marsgum where can i make a gif like that?

amoergosum 02-13-2017 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cork_soaker (Post 4319775)
hey marsgum where can i make a gif like that?

...can't you see the address in the GIF?...;)

ohnoitsbonnie 02-13-2017 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crabshack (Post 4319500)
Probably a dumb question but did anyone else pick up the gynecological reference in "sally's in the stirrups claiming her destiny"?

gynecologically


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