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emilem 04-06-2019 10:13 PM

why is stranglehold part of window paine?
 
has corgan ever commented on why he used the solo from ted nugent's stranglehold in window paine? it's so obvious i always assumed it's deliberate. or were we not suppose to notice it? never heard of him ever speaking about it.

i'd ask him on twitter but i'm afraid he's going to publicly mock me.

Disco King 04-06-2019 11:16 PM

Never heard the song before. Instead of making me seek through the eight-minute track to find which of the 11 guitar solos you're referring to, why not just directly link to it?

Mals Marola 04-06-2019 11:19 PM

that just ain't how emilem plays the game, man

Corgan's Bluff 04-07-2019 12:36 AM

Too lame to post the music...:rolleyes::



"sometimes you gotta start low"

Billy knows the music of the seventies like nobody else...
And Ted Nugent heard the Bolero.

Gooch 04-07-2019 02:34 AM

sInE!!!!@

T&T 04-07-2019 02:40 AM

we wanted you to post to the WWMM part of the song.
no one wants to listen to the whole thing, we know it's bad.

emilem 04-07-2019 12:39 PM

sorry guys, i guess this is aimed at people who know what i’m talking about. well, now you know too. its just kinda weird he never gave ted a proper credit.

Forgotten Child 04-07-2019 01:27 PM

It's just a generic 70's metal riff/solo


emilem 04-07-2019 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child (Post 4505298)
It's just a generic 70's metal riff/solo


not the part i'm reffering to but this is indeed very similar as well. is gish just a collection of 70s hard rock riffs corgan borrowed form his favourite acts? is that why he likes greta van fleet so much?

Mals Marola 04-07-2019 03:09 PM

Nah, he also borrowed from Jane's Addiction

TuralyonW3 04-07-2019 03:55 PM

it was used in jeff beck even before nugent

Oklahoma Sexual 04-07-2019 04:28 PM

Jimmy lifted the drums as well.

NovaFritz 04-07-2019 07:58 PM

Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock

Elphenor 04-07-2019 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaFritz (Post 4505318)
Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock

right it's one of the most iconic game changing songs in rock

like...lol

Forgotten Child 04-08-2019 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaFritz (Post 4505318)
Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock

What I meat was lots of 70s metal bands used that same riff structure on lots of songs to the point it became generic. I don't think Billy lifted it from Ted nugget.

Forgotten Child 04-08-2019 08:01 AM


emilem 04-08-2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child (Post 4505344)
What I meat was lots of 70s metal bands used that same riff structure on lots of songs to the point it became generic. I don't think Billy lifted it from Ted nugget.

lol stop making this weird moot point. it's not about the riff structure. name one that uses the same solo melody and drum pattern. so far you posted 0 songs that do.

Run To Me 04-08-2019 06:30 PM

Q. Why is Stranglehold by Ted Nugent part of window paine?

A. So you don’t have to listen to Ted Nugent, silly

/thread

TuralyonW3 04-08-2019 08:45 PM

Nugent has some pretty fucking badass songs and guitar licks (too bad he's walking garbage)

Mals Marola 04-08-2019 10:49 PM

already the worst song on Gish, why not throw some Nugent into the stew???

Run To Me 04-09-2019 12:07 AM

Window Paine is good, shut up!

toase 04-09-2019 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff (Post 4505279)
Too lame to post the music...:rolleyes::



"sometimes you gotta start low"

Billy knows the music of the seventies like nobody else...
And Ted Nugent heard the Bolero.


Oklahoma Sexual 04-09-2019 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3 (Post 4505363)
B'arcy has some pretty fucking badass songs and guitar licks (too bad he's walking garbage)

Yep

redbreegull 04-09-2019 01:09 AM

ted nugent is like evil tho

Corgan's Bluff 04-09-2019 02:51 AM

Ted Nugent is a smoking gun...

houseofglass11 04-10-2019 11:04 PM

I've never heard a similarity between the two.

Run To Me 04-10-2019 11:17 PM

The stranglehold is a leading reason for today’s epidemic of young men with impotent penises

Tumora 04-11-2019 09:57 AM

The opening of Stranglehold sounds similar to I Am One

Corgan's Bluff 04-21-2019 11:44 AM

From a vintage tour book of the Smashing Pumpkins (1997):


johncg 04-21-2019 03:57 PM

Mildly interesting. Thank you.


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