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paranoid 09-04-2019 01:01 PM

Recordings that prove Darcy killed it on bass
 
Here’s a couple where the bass levels are really high, so her playing is very present.

Really shredding the groove in Siva, and her control of dynamics is A+. She locks in really well with jimmy here.

https://youtu.be/HrxkiQTJQo8

Rehearsal footage of SNL cherub rock, again high volume and just owning the groove

https://youtu.be/yFUJQuCCgnE



Sorry I can’t embed for shit.

MplsTaper 09-04-2019 01:07 PM



FoolofaTook 09-04-2019 01:26 PM


Eulogy 09-04-2019 02:30 PM

I seem to remember liking her on the earphoria cherub rock

Ram27 09-04-2019 06:59 PM

all three posted ITT are fucking i n t e n s e and some of my favorite SP live vids

maybe d'arcy was the secret

amoergosum 09-05-2019 02:02 AM

Billy:

"It’s hard to get… the Pumpkins’ sound. If you can bottle it, it’s sort of predicated on the idea the guitars are clearly on top and ahead of the drums; the drums sit in the middle, and the bass is a little back, so it has an impact and wide-scope sound. That’s the sound that I like to hear. Maybe it was developed through playing with D’Arcy and the way she played. I got used to that feeling, and so I’ve looked for that feeling ever since."

amoergosum 09-05-2019 02:09 AM


Funbags 09-05-2019 03:45 AM

I've always thought the whole "Darcy can't play bass" thing was just plain sexism. "D'arcy couldn't play her parts on Siamese Dream so she's obviously just eye candy" -despite the fact she played thousands of shows just fine.

Mals Marola 09-05-2019 11:32 AM

except that James was always thrown in there too

Mals Marola 09-05-2019 11:34 AM

i thought the argument wasn't so much that D & J sucked as it was Billy was 10x better and could get a recording in say 2 or 3 takes when the same part might take them 8 or 10. a big deal in the era of purely tape recording

in that regard maybe it's no coincidence that the era they were brought back in on as far as studio work is concerned was also the era we started hearing about Pro Tools :beatup:

FoolofaTook 09-05-2019 12:30 PM

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=187491

got a better thread going over here. kahlo made an excellent contribution.

topleybird 09-05-2019 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola (Post 4517504)
i thought the argument wasn't so much that D & J sucked as it was Billy was 10x better and could get a recording in say 2 or 3 takes when the same part might take them 8 or 10.

Yeah but didn't we just learn that Billy played the Today intro for like 36 straight hours before he got it right

As we all know, our dude could barely figure out which end of the guitar was which at the best of times

Mals Marola 09-05-2019 01:56 PM

my theory is that during the Gish days, Billson was way less obsessive/compulsive and was legit just going in there and nailing the takes, whereas James & D'arcy may not have been as comfortable with their parts or weren't playing consistently enough to have it work on record.

when it came to SD i feel like Bill's obsessive tendencies probably sky-rocketed leading to shit like the aforementioned Today intro session as well as the fact that Butch essentially said he would have some extreme trepidation ever working with Billco again after that one

Mals Marola 09-05-2019 01:57 PM

but hey, that's just one Sad Machine's opinion!

SPfan79 09-05-2019 02:27 PM

The way she played was lazy and chunky in all the right ways. Jack is a studio musician. Lame and boring. D'arcy being involved means it will be better automatically.
Its been good as of late but would be better with her.

johncg 09-05-2019 04:33 PM

Yeah billy has definitely said in many interviews that he would spend countless hours overdubbing guitars to get the timing just right. I’ve worked with bandleaders like him. They are a pain the ass...constantly acting like everything they do is perfect and everyone around them sucks. I’ve seen more than enough footage of sloppy playing, flubbed notes, and out of tune bends to know that billy was by no means a virtuoso musician on a completely different level than Darcy and James. He’s just a cock

amoergosum 09-05-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPfan79 (Post 4517526)
Jack is a studio musician.



Mals Marola 09-05-2019 07:06 PM

for fuck's sake!


FoolofaTook 09-05-2019 07:11 PM

how'd you get it so big?

Mals Marola 09-05-2019 07:23 PM

i sent it to yer dad

Squish Squash 03-18-2020 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4517456)

She sounded great that whole show but this one in particular I loved:

https://youtu.be/ObiT0CfQsCE

Joey Goldberg 03-18-2020 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola (Post 4517540)
i sent it to yer dad

nice

smashingjj 03-18-2020 06:59 PM

:rolleyes:

Joey Goldberg 03-18-2020 07:03 PM

take it up with clicks cluckett, loser

FoolofaTook 03-18-2020 07:04 PM

smashingjj rolling his eyes at a convo between his two alt accounts


incredible

Joey Goldberg 03-18-2020 07:13 PM

just imagine if Hey! walked in here right about now!

AveryLoren 03-19-2020 12:11 AM

I'll throw my 2cents in on the studio thing. I own a small recording studio here in Tulsa. I've recorded somewhere between 400 and 500 unique bands. In all my time I have witnessed this white coat syndrome for musicians. They can be phenomenal players that bring the house down in a live setting and then forget how to count to four in my studio. Watching the 666 videos a million times I really don't see this being the case with D'arcy.

Gooch 03-19-2020 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squish Squash (Post 4533565)
She sounded great that whole show but this one in particular I loved:

https://youtu.be/ObiT0CfQsCE

Wtf is Darcy saying into the mic at around 2:45 of that teitbite clip?? James also appears to word non Billy lyric words during the chorus???? Never picked that up before...

Gooch 03-19-2020 12:26 AM

Maybe the whole AV is off never mind

Cool As Ice Cream 03-19-2020 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AveryLoren (Post 4533649)
I own a small recording studio here in Tulsa. I've recorded somewhere between 400 and 500 unique bands. In all my time I have witnessed this white coat syndrome for musicians. They can be phenomenal players that bring the house down in a live setting and then forget how to count to four in my studio.

maybe you should consider wearing something else?


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