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reprise85 11-02-2019 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum (Post 4520619)
Paramore cover?


>>>



just be happy he didn't appels and oranjes it and call it harhd tymyz

reprise85 11-02-2019 01:29 AM

and i'm sorry bill, but using a capo for EVERY SONG is lazy

trev 11-02-2019 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4520643)
and i'm sorry bill, but using a capo for EVERY SONG is lazy

it can be, but sometimes isn't, it really depends. i haven't listened to any new billy corgan material for about a decade, so you are probably right that this is the lazy version i'd have no idea.

but from writing and performing i find that after writing a song, it's not just the eventual final key that matters but also the chord shapes / finger placement.

so you might find a way to play a song in standard tuning with no capo in the key you want, but the chords and finger placement changes the feel and sound too much. using a capo fixes that.

like how the original version of tonight tonight in C sounds different, but not just because of the key but also the different chord shapes. if you want to keep those chord shapes but change the key, you need to use a completely different tuning or use a capo.

Cool As Ice Cream 11-02-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bright_doom (Post 4520588)
WPC's new solo album, Cotillions, will be available digitally on November 22.

so will it only be a digital release?

fuzzyroes 11-02-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4520595)
Just reading those song titles pisses me off.

They seem like pretty typical Smashing Pumpkin like titles

enthusaroo 11-02-2019 11:01 AM

it's leaked already

reprise85 11-02-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by trev (Post 4520645)
it can be, but sometimes isn't, it really depends. i haven't listened to any new billy corgan material for about a decade, so you are probably right that this is the lazy version i'd have no idea.

but from writing and performing i find that after writing a song, it's not just the eventual final key that matters but also the chord shapes / finger placement.

so you might find a way to play a song in standard tuning with no capo in the key you want, but the chords and finger placement changes the feel and sound too much. using a capo fixes that.

like how the original version of tonight tonight in C sounds different, but not just because of the key but also the different chord shapes. if you want to keep those chord shapes but change the key, you need to use a completely different tuning or use a capo.

I hear you for sure. It's just literally every song. He used to use interesting chords (sometimes). Now he can just slap a capo and do everything in first position. These are very strum-y songs so you're prob right that it just sounds better.

Forgotten Child 11-02-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by enthusaroo (Post 4520666)
it's leaked already

Link or it didn't happen

srt4b 11-02-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten Child (Post 4520671)
Link or it didn't happen

it didn't

Cool As Ice Cream 11-02-2019 04:25 PM

OR DID IT?

FoolofaTook 11-02-2019 04:47 PM

^ Those men were my fathers. They have since passed from too much buttplugging.

Now I am sad.

Forgotten Child 11-02-2019 05:53 PM

You mean daddies

FoolofaTook 11-02-2019 07:38 PM

yes


:D

smashingjj 11-02-2019 07:39 PM

who is this William Patrick guy anyway and what has he to do with Two Gallants?

FoolofaTook 11-02-2019 07:42 PM

so @jccomplex now works for the FBI?

FoolofaTook 11-02-2019 07:43 PM


enthusaroo 11-02-2019 10:26 PM

I thought this album was gonna be called "666" and it was gonna be shoegaze death metal?

hard pass on Billy Corgan "Americana".. I'll stick with Sufjan Stevens

Raskolnikov 11-02-2019 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody (Post 4520641)
The spacing and arrangement of “William Patrick Corgan” and the title text on the cover is People&TheirCars rough.

Dude, is it ever. Logic has no reason in the text layout of that cover, which is kind of a shame - because it's damn distracting and prevents me from being able to assess whether that cover is cool or not.

myosis 11-03-2019 01:12 AM

no CD :(

Run To Me 11-03-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by enthusaroo (Post 4520697)
I thought this album was gonna be called "666" and it was gonna be shoegaze death metal?

hard pass on Billy Corgan "Americana".. I'll stick with Sufjan Stevens

Gosh imagine a soft elderly bill cooing at u thru piles of glittery guitarsnakes

Like do a breathless shambolic loose shoegaze thing

Yet instead what we get to hear is big willie corgan 1) strum and 2) sing dry loud honking gasping croaking vocals, forever, again?

FoolofaTook 11-03-2019 07:47 AM

cockbillions

eviltimeban 11-04-2019 07:40 AM

The artwork is at least better than the Ogilala cover. Strange that he just has a random photo though, rather than getting Linda Strawberry or someone to do something more intricate. Maybe that's just for Pumpkins. It has a sort of Adore vibe, by virtue of being a blurry b/w pic.

As for the length, 1 hour is too long for a regular vinyl. It'll be 2LPs and online, don't think there's a CD option.

Mals Marola 11-04-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (Post 4520700)
Dude, is it ever. Logic has no reason in the text layout of that cover, which is kind of a shame - because it's damn distracting and prevents me from being able to assess whether that cover is cool or not.

It’s “cool adjacent”

Ram27 11-04-2019 08:04 AM

The artwork has been garbage lately. SD and MCIS were peak art - cool nostalgic old family photo vibe on SD, then MCIS has the beautiful Victorian painting collage

this one is shitty unsymmetrical black and white blah

eviltimeban 11-04-2019 08:43 AM

This would be the "WPC" version of SD if it came out now:


Cool As Ice Cream 11-04-2019 09:50 AM


amoergosum 11-04-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by myosis (Post 4520703)
no CD :(



WTF???

eviltimeban 11-04-2019 12:30 PM

Do people still buy many CDs? I can't remember the last one I got. Most of the time I listen on my phone so it's downloads all the way. Or, I buy the record if I really want it.

Mals Marola 11-04-2019 12:49 PM

i bought CDs up until earlier this year when the player in my car went out. it's good for touring bands & whatnot but if there's a super-special release or something i'm prob just gonna go vinyl or some other such "fancy pants" format

FoolofaTook 11-04-2019 12:51 PM

ur dad's got a super-special release


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