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-   -   Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer) (http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=183573)

Woody 03-10-2016 03:50 AM

Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer)
 
Unless I'm blind did the thread linking to a recent One and Two Youtube video covered by music news websites, and which contained the quote from the SP FB page get taken down?

Did something bad happen in there I missed? Please PM details.

On pretty much the only board left on the internet discussing the Smashing Pumpkins, with 300 active users, which contained no direct links to stolen material, threads are being DELETED? under threat of legal action from the band?

Then what is the point of even having this forum?

Probably my last post as I can barely listen to the old stuff now without thinking about what a tool Corgan is and coming here is like gathering to witness a car crash.

If we're gonna be censored as well, forget it.

Beta 03-10-2016 04:00 AM

Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer)
 
where is this discussed here?
http://www.stereogum.com/1864721/ori...f&utm_campaign

cant think that i am the first...

Woody 03-10-2016 04:03 AM

Thread got deleted. I wouldn't expect it to fall under no linked unreleased material rules as it wasnt leaked directly on to here.

Why should Netphoria not discuss SP news covered elsewhere on the internet?

Hopefully we'll get an answer...

StillBecomingApart 03-10-2016 04:54 AM

That's the death of netphoria

StillBecomingApart 03-10-2016 04:59 AM

Also, that youtube user deleted all videos...

Woody 03-10-2016 05:27 AM

I guess the question is whether the thread was taken down by the thread starter (and vid uploader???) for fear of prosecution or by Mr. Pakula for breach of board guidelines or some other reason.

Cool As Ice Cream 03-10-2016 05:41 AM

i guess nobody involved will say a word about this.

TheAeroplane 03-10-2016 06:30 AM

This is what reunites these fuckers after ignoring and hating on each other after all these years ?

Woody 03-10-2016 06:34 AM

You really think James and D'arcy were even contacted about this, and it wasn't just a blanket statement from the band management and a way for Billy to distribute responsiblity for the reaction away from himself?

MyOneAndOnly 03-10-2016 07:41 AM

Billy issued that threat all on his own.

But I don't doubt that the rest of the band feels the same way.

brandnewfan 03-10-2016 08:23 AM

Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

Woody 03-10-2016 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4250962)
Billy issued that threat all on his own.

But I don't doubt that the rest of the band feels the same way.

They'd probably feel the same way but I doubt they care so much as to issue threats or even pursue it legally. They've distanced themselves from the band to a large extent.

Ram27 03-10-2016 09:29 AM

James Iha would not bother prosecuting someone to the full extent of the law because someone shared old studio demos of his with like 100 fans who have nothing better to do

And by the way, do we have any idea where these tracks even came from? Like, it seems weird that they were mixed and put onto a CD without any intent of them being released

matcada 03-10-2016 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandnewfan (Post 4250964)
Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

Did not hear about that (just One and Two, The Tracer and Muzzle). If someone has it, please PM.

ButtHash 03-10-2016 09:55 AM

^^^^

themadcaplaughs 03-10-2016 10:11 AM

-Original 4
-Cash rewards

sjpaterra 03-10-2016 10:53 AM

why don't people upload this stuff from a VPN or using TOR? That way it's completely anonymous (almost) and harder to trace... i'd leak that shit from brazil, taiwan, vancouver, and brussels

Woody 03-10-2016 11:00 AM

Legally there is nothing the band could do to this board, for members linking to public, non-affiliated Youtube videos, than it could music sites or reddit or anything else. There is no reason to delete the entire discussion. If someone had posted a link to that on a number of wider music forums, as they probably did, nobody would take down the links or nuke the threads.

As the poster said earlier, that's the death of netphoria. Fans aren't even allowed to talk about and give impressions on publically leaked material because Billy is throwing his lawyers around and threatening board hosts? If that is the case fans should be made aware of it and decide if they want to have anything more to do with this band.

Bomb The Moon 03-10-2016 11:13 AM



you don't wanna anger the pumpkins camp...

Cool As Ice Cream 03-10-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 4250976)
looks like "some other reason" - Andrew nuked it without explanation.

smells like monty to me...

Cool As Ice Cream 03-10-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody (Post 4250978)
As the poster said earlier, that's the death of netphoria. Fans aren't even allowed to talk about and give impressions on publically leaked material because Billy is throwing his lawyers around and threatening board hosts? If that is the case fans should be made aware of it and decide if they want to have anything more to do with this band.

you're discussing it now, aren't you?

Woody 03-10-2016 11:16 AM

Not the tracks themselves, and how long before this disappears?

Slurpee 03-10-2016 11:26 AM

It does seem like this board will die if we can't even discuss what's out there.

Beta 03-10-2016 12:23 PM

so PM link anyone?

Forgotten Child 03-10-2016 12:27 PM

I started that thread, I didn't delete it tho.

It was an YouTube video ffs.

New Art Rioter 03-10-2016 12:32 PM

I wonder if this thread will get deleted too? Hope not. Fingers crossed for more tunes to come out...

AndySlash 03-10-2016 01:03 PM

it seems pakula was notified somehow and came on for a minute, deleted the 'offending' threads, and sped away in his rice burner or whatever. assume it was due to a 'violation' and he just doesn't care enough to fight it.

if anything does come out - NO DIRECT LINKS. and link to youtube/other sites at your own risk, i guess. *shrug*

Forgotten Child 03-10-2016 02:08 PM

I'm stil able to play the XYU video, which I posted on the Smashing Pumpkins Brasil page. All the other are unavailable/private now though. I downloaded them all in MP3, but Muzzle.

Bomb The Moon 03-10-2016 02:15 PM

it's incredible that bolly fights so hard against the remaining 300 fans he has. :noway:

how dare we try to hear rare\unreleased SP tracks, without bolly's consent.

Ram27 03-10-2016 02:17 PM

let's make our own forum, with blackjack and leaks


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