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Disco King 03-29-2017 02:31 PM

Also, did I mention that I've been put on Wellbutrin? Taking it in addition to the Zoloft, and the doc says that it may be more activating and stimulating than the Zoloft. I've been making progress when it comes to anxiety and mood, but I'm still not functional enough to be productive and get shit done and do anything but refresh Netphoria. It's even getting hard for me to get out of bed these days. Used to get up as soon as the alarm went off. Now I'm all "uggh, 10 more minutes," and then I sleep for another hour and am sometimes late for class.

Too bad we don't expect the effects of the Wellbutrin to be noticeable for at least a few weeks, because it's already the end of the semester. Lol, I like how I was a good student, and then I probably ruined my chances of going to grad school in a single shitty year.

Disco King 03-29-2017 02:56 PM

http://i.imgur.com/wWC8i5a.jpg

yo soy el mejor 03-29-2017 02:58 PM

we're all so different; it brings a joyful tear to mine eye ;_-

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337826)
yeah i've noticed that A+ students are usually the feebs that will litigate anything less than a 95, they're like the people in D&D games that have to argue every illegal action & negotiate every rule to benefit them. its how they know you're ready for extralegal capitalism.

the vast majority of the time i get a question wrong i understand why or just didn't know at all in the first place. i just want to understand what i got wrong. and then more than half the time the prof doesn't even go over the test so i don't even know what i got wrong. i don't argue grades and i've gotten plenty of Bs on tests and a couple Cs.

and when it comes to D&D and board games I am definitely not a rule arguer, don't lump me in with those assholes :(

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4337877)
Also, did I mention that I've been put on Wellbutrin? Taking it in addition to the Zoloft, and the doc says that it may be more activating and stimulating than the Zoloft. I've been making progress when it comes to anxiety and mood, but I'm still not functional enough to be productive and get shit done and do anything but refresh Netphoria. It's even getting hard for me to get out of bed these days. Used to get up as soon as the alarm went off. Now I'm all "uggh, 10 more minutes," and then I sleep for another hour and am sometimes late for class.

Too bad we don't expect the effects of the Wellbutrin to be noticeable for at least a few weeks, because it's already the end of the semester. Lol, I like how I was a good student, and then I probably ruined my chances of going to grad school in a single shitty year.

wellbutrin made me feel like i was on speed at first, but i was on IRs and you're probably not. of course now i don't "feel" anything when I take it.

also you prob haven't ruined your chances, you'll just have to explain what happened. it can actually be to your benefit. this is not as alarming as your messed up semester but I got an F in general psych when I first took it cause I got sick and it was after the drop period. so the first grade on my transcript is an F in general psych and I can't get it off. it's from 2008 and the rest of my grades don't start again until 2013 but it's still there

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:11 PM

welbutrin is trash lets be honest

the words "welbutrin helped me" are ones i've never heard

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:21 PM

wellbutrin helped me

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:21 PM

you think therapy works too tho

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:21 PM

today i did something really hard in therapy. i'm not going to tell you what it is but. believe me it was hard and it's been like 5 years coming and i feel anxious and relieved

trots i wrote this before i saw your post it wasn't in a response

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337899)
you think therapy works too tho

it does for some people, it can especially help with PTSD and trauma

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:25 PM

paying money for someone to listen to you is jacked up, they don't really do anything

redbreegull 03-29-2017 03:25 PM

Therapy has helped me at least in some ways, and I know others who have had their lives changed by therapy. I resisted going back for many years because I had such bad experiences when I was younger, but obviously it does work for many people and for me it was an interpersonal issue, not an issue with THERAPY

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337906)
paying money for someone to listen to you is jacked up, they don't really do anything

they have training and should be using that to help you in agreed upon ways. therapy without direction can be completely pointless and it can actually be harmful if they are shitty therapists/people

for me its also been a vehicle for me to learn how to trust others because of all that happened to me, i'm still not able to trust but no person should have to deal with my bullshit insecurity, my therapist deals with it so i can work through it and eventually have a real trusting relationship with others. so yeah in a way it's paying someone to just listen to you but there's more to it than that and for some people it's not that at all, for example in CBT

no one really knows me, probably no one really knows you either trots and that's sad and shitty for us, other people don't live that way

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:31 PM

its a problem with paying someone to sit there

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4337915)
for me its also been a vehicle for me to learn how to trust others because of all that happened to me, i'm still not able to trust but no person should have to deal with my bullshit insecurity, my therapist deals with it so i can work through it and eventually have a real trusting relationship with others. so yeah in a way it's paying someone to just listen to you but there's more to it than that and for some people it's not that at all, for example in CBT

so you're saying they take advantage of people who are vulnerable

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:32 PM

:warp:

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:33 PM

you should be able to go down to your local gaia temple and commune with the eco-priest about your struggle and then holistically cleansed with various herbal & massage therapy techniques

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337917)
so you're saying they take advantage of people who are vulnerable

some of them do, most of them do not. they are being paid for their time because they have to live like everyone else. that's not taking advantage of people. i know you're just being a contrarian but you know how I was before. therapy is a big reason why i've improved

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:36 PM

i mean for one example, whenever i was around girls say 5-15 i would dissociate and get flashbacks to shitty violent child porn i used to be forced to watch plus when i lived with that guy i used to try and be one step ahead of who he would try to prey on so that i could stop it, so i was hyper-aroused all the time around girls. now i mostly can deal with them and even interact. we directly addressed this shit in therapy and worked through my anxiety. this used to happen with teenage coworkers or any time i was around girls for more than a passing amount of time, for example when i was in the waiting room this happened once in a while and we were able to use it to work on my issues

exactly how else would someone work on something like that

redbreegull 03-29-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337916)
its a problem with paying someone to sit there

is intellectual labor not labor?


my dude anyway, I see him as a combo teacher/life coach/professional sounding board. He has really really helped me understand my own thoughts and behaviors in ways I previously did not have the perspective to consider.

also the government is paying him to sit there in my case, thanks Obama

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:40 PM

the government subsidizes about 75% of my therapy thanks medicare. well less really if you take into account my monthly premium it's more like 60%

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:42 PM

i really struggle to justify therapists as intellectual labor that's worth the amount of money they charge

redbreegull 03-29-2017 03:43 PM

also I know it sounds very trite, but in my case the success of therapy was very largely based on me being ready (read:desperate enough) to seriously try it. I was at the point where I would have tried anything to not be in literal constant psychological agony

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:43 PM

i mean i have a problem with the 135 i pay for a psychiatrist for a half hour, and thy're a goddamn medical doctor

Shallowed 03-29-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4337927)
shitty violent child porn i used to be forced to watch

Holy shit, I knew you were in an abusive relationship, but Jesus...

redbreegull 03-29-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337941)
i mean i have a problem with the 135 i pay for a psychiatrist for a half hour, and thy're a goddamn medical doctor

the problem is insurance though. wouldn't you be paying this much every time you go see your general physician if it weren't for insurance?


but I understand, if I lost my insurance I just wouldn't be able to go to therapy anymore

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4337944)
the problem is insurance though. wouldn't you be paying this much every time you go see your general physician if it weren't for insurance?

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Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:49 PM

and even if i did, the rate is idiotic ridiculous. 270 an hour? are you joking? nobody needs that much

Trotskilicious 03-29-2017 03:51 PM

even when i had insurance i paid full price for psych care because they never will file it for you even though they are working at 270 an hour, and i just figured it would never get paid because of excuses and the ACA is the only reason they're forced to cover it now

reprise85 03-29-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4337938)
i really struggle to justify therapists as intellectual labor that's worth the amount of money they charge

i can understand this, however you're discounting the time they put in outside of your billable therapy hour writing notes, plus they pay rent, a biller, income tax, etc.

if a therapist has 25 sessions a week and gets 100/hr (which is a bit optimistic), that's 2500 a week = 10,000 a month. that's 120,000 a year. minus taxes, rent, a biller, malpractice insurance, having to pay for continuing education. and Master's clinicians will never get $100/hr, this is as an established PhD

and remember they went to college for 5-8 years after undergraduate. even if you shove in 32 hours, that's 3200 = 12800 a month x 12 = 153,600. they might end up with 100k max. that's a lot of money but that's max after probably 20 years as a private practice therapist. i don't think it's unreasonable really.


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