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scottytheoneand 04-26-2012 11:42 AM

Machina Reissue
 
A few tidbits regarding the Machina reissue.

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/featu...t-laugh?page=1


Quote:

Alright. Machina II is a brilliant album, have you ever thought about releasing it properly, maybe when you re-issue the others?

Yes. Our sell-out move, for Machina, is weíre going to remix the whole record and put it in its official sequence the way Iíd hoped for in the beginning. I wrote it as a rock opera double album type of thing, so weíre going to remix the whole thing. Iíve already talked to Flood, and heís been indicating he wants to be involved with that part of the process, and then weíll finally finish the album, the way it was meant to be. How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity? Me reaching into my own pockets to remix my own records so I can convince kids who didnít like them the first time the first time to buy them again?

duovamp 04-26-2012 12:10 PM

Well at least his cynicism indicates some sense of awareness.

Astur 04-26-2012 12:19 PM


teh b0lly!!1 04-26-2012 12:25 PM

sounds intriguing
i've always wondered if machina's unlikable sound resulted from bad recording or bad mixing
guess we'll find out

duovamp 04-26-2012 12:27 PM

Good interview. Especially at the end. I think he's right about having the last laugh. 20 years down the road, MCIS will be the next Dark Side of the Moon, and the pumpkins will have a huge diverse library of songs.

killtrocity 04-26-2012 12:45 PM

You said in a blog that you’re at a good place in your life.Is it possible to make relevant rock and roll while being happy and at peace?
I haven’t proven that point yet. The answer is ‘I don’t know’, I’ve made some of my best music when I’ve been fucking miserable.



least he knows his shit sucks

scottytheoneand 04-26-2012 12:47 PM

IMSOMBMWIBFM

scottytheoneand 04-26-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 3851332)
sounds intriguing
i've always wondered if machina's unlikable sound resulted from bad recording or bad mixing
guess we'll find out

I think it's some of both. It will depend on how radically different the mix is. the actual mix on Machina is so horrible that it's hard to imagine it getting any worse.




Since IMO MCIS is perfect the way it is, and Adore is already my favorite album, all I really want out of the rest of the reissues is a completed Machina double album.

Robert Paulson 04-26-2012 01:03 PM

Machina is better than MCIS and Adore

Eulogy 04-26-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Paulson (Post 3851338)
Machina is better than MCIS and Adore

this is stupid

and i really like machina

slunken 04-26-2012 02:20 PM

even if the remixing sucks we'll at least know the intended tracklist though i'm sure some changes will have been made to that from then to now but still...

slunken 04-26-2012 02:21 PM

can always piece it together from the old source material

slunken 04-26-2012 02:49 PM


dean_r_koontz 04-26-2012 03:11 PM

i don't think a remastering will change that most of these songs are wack.

killtrocity 04-26-2012 03:54 PM

Yeah... unless there are different versions. The acoustic demos for most of the songs were better than the album versions. Mastering was still one of the biggest problems with Machina, though

amoergosum 04-26-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killtrocity (Post 3851401)
Mastering was still one of the biggest problems with Machina, though

Yes indeed. It only has a dynamic range of DR7.

Morlock 04-26-2012 04:56 PM

This is the only re-issue I might buy. If the album benefits even half as much as Pearl Jam's "Ten" did from the remix I will be very, very happy. Also, it would be great to listen to the Machina II tracks in good quality. And if they add the Metro Show to the box, this would be a wonderful package.

Don't screw this up, Billy.

redbreegull 04-26-2012 06:00 PM

my prediction is the MII songs will be remixed to sound hi-fi and the MI songs will sound exactly the same

iPumpkin 04-26-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz (Post 3851367)
i don't think a remastering will change that most of these songs are wack.

He is going to re-mix these songs not remaster them. Much different. The whole song could change. Different tracks can be removed or added, vocals tracks can sound much different in a re mix.

duovamp 04-26-2012 07:31 PM

r u a sound engineer?

killtrocity 04-26-2012 09:00 PM

can u post a bigger pic of that chick under your name plz

redbreegull 04-26-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killtrocity (Post 3851524)
can u post a bigger pic of that chick under your name plz

see starla's thread on gen board

Ramdust 04-26-2012 10:52 PM

"Is there anything left unturned?

Itís pretty honest. The only catch in it is that everybodyís under pseudonyms. I donít name names. I mean some people obviously thereís no way to not figure out who it is. But thereís a lot of people that have played an important role in my life who I just donít name."

I'm waiting for the thread that dissects all of the characters.

slunken 04-26-2012 11:13 PM

D'arcy = Marcy
Jimmy = Phil
James = Mr. Chang

slunken 04-26-2012 11:14 PM


Trotskilicious 04-26-2012 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Corgan
How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity?

lol he's one of those

slunken 04-26-2012 11:27 PM

yea he seemed pretty peeved about the sell-out question and it affected his answer to the next question which was a pretty good one.

i took his answer with a grain of salt so i'm not holding my hopes high on some flood remix super concept album

Araneae 04-27-2012 12:54 AM

Why can't Billy not be a dick? The question he was asked wasn't all that stupid.

Refreshing to see him finally admit that he made his best music being depressed. His happy rainbow shit was fucking annoying.

slunken 04-27-2012 02:07 AM

no it was pretty fucking stupid

teh b0lly!!1 04-27-2012 06:30 AM

oh man i can't wait for the new sequence, the mystery will all make sense now :popcorn:


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