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morespsoon 04-02-2012 09:03 PM

Why does Mellon Collie begin and end with a piano solo?
 
It hit me when I was listening to "Farewell and Goodnight" the other day. The song ends with a piano solo. It was obviously a conscious decision to begin and end the album with a piano solo, why do you think that decision was made? What does it mean artistically, creatively, symbolically, or otherwise to you?

To me, it must represent coming full circle. I remember the band mentioning that the album was supposed to represent a day in the life of a person so to me beginning and ending the album like this represents how we often end up starting where previously ended thus coming full circle (the end is the beginning is the end, the beginning is the end is the beginning).

fluxequalsrad 04-02-2012 09:06 PM

I love coming full circle.

TommyB 04-02-2012 10:06 PM

lolx6 its prolly cuz thats what he wanted to do? thats what i would assume lol for ever like y ask or something?

CrabbMan 04-02-2012 10:56 PM

You want to really blow your mind? Play that last bit of Farewell and Goodnight backwards.

morespsoon 04-02-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrabbMan (Post 3843741)
You want to really blow your mind? Play that last bit of Farewell and Goodnight backwards.

I don't know how to do that. What's the result?

Eulogy 04-02-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morespsoon (Post 3843755)
I don't know how to do that. What's the result?

mellon collie and the infinite sadness

sppunk 04-02-2012 11:51 PM

I had MCIS played during my wedding processional. It's a beautiful piece.

vixnix 04-03-2012 12:41 AM

I remember both of them having terrible key signatures and thinking they were obviously written by someone who had learned to play by ear. VIP roy though. I guess it's fairly common to start quiet, build up to something, and then end quiet. Just a nice form for music and it suited the tracks that had been recorded to be put in that order.

Lots of his big epic songs do that too iirc, Starla, Mayonnaise, Soma...He liked that form I guess and was good at writing that way.

morespsoon 04-03-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by vixnix (Post 3843773)
I remember both of them having terrible key signatures and thinking they were obviously written by someone who had learned to play by ear. VIP roy though. I guess it's fairly common to start quiet, build up to something, and then end quiet. Just a nice form for music and it suited the tracks that had been recorded to be put in that order.

Lots of his big epic songs do that too iirc, Starla, Mayonnaise, Soma...He liked that form I guess and was good at writing that way.

That's a good theory but it doesn't explain why the piano itself was chosen as the instrument rather than something else.

vixnix 04-03-2012 02:09 AM

My guess is that he had just started writing on it and was excited about it, and it was something that nobody had heard him do before, a suitable beginning to a concept album that aimed to be different.

OR

He was going through some kind of closeted affection for Elton John and it was a secret tribute. Who knows. I think it has more to do with the first one, though.

Starla 04-03-2012 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk (Post 3843759)
I had MCIS played during my wedding processional. It's a beautiful piece.

I had Tonight Tonight played at my brother's funeral and people were like :erm:

TommyB 04-03-2012 06:05 AM

omfg i was wondering where the awesome kids ate lunch :cool: lolx90

reprise85 04-03-2012 07:42 AM

second clue in the machina mystery right here

the first one being '2007' in PI

Cool As Ice Cream 04-03-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morespsoon (Post 3843781)
That's a good theory but it doesn't explain why the piano itself was chosen as the instrument rather than something else.

omg a piano! what's the meaning behind the choice for this specific instrument? why did they choose to play guitar on rocket? what does it mean? i think it's symbolic! somehow!


morespsoon 04-03-2012 09:58 AM

lol

Yes it's true, just like SP the band we have reached rock bottom in terms of topics.

TommyB 04-03-2012 10:35 AM

LOL~! TELL ME ABOUT IT

maybe we could discuss like, why... oh i don't know, nevermind :dammit:

Cool As Ice Cream 04-03-2012 11:07 AM

maybe you could like shut the fuck up and like get the fuck out of here?
just a suggestion. but also an order. thank you. LOL~

morespsoon 04-03-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 3843866)
maybe you could like shut the fuck up and like get the fuck out of here?
just a suggestion. but also an order. thank you. LOL~

Actually, there's nothing wrong with this topic. It's pretty interesting imho. :smoke:

rottenugly 04-03-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 3843866)
maybe you could like shut the fuck up and like get the fuck out of here?
just a suggestion. but also an order. thank you. LOL~

Him and FlutterShy or whatever are both ruining this place for the superfans.

morespsoon 04-03-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rottenugly (Post 3843874)
Him and FlutterShy or whatever are both ruining this place for the superfans.

How am I ruining anything? :think:

Slurpee 04-03-2012 12:34 PM

I can no longer tell if posts on here are trolls or not. It's all a big black blur.

rottenugly 04-03-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morespsoon (Post 3843876)
How am I ruining anything? :think:

Not you, CAIC was referring to TommyB and so was I.

Cool As Ice Cream 04-03-2012 02:24 PM

exactly. spoontwat!

emilem 04-03-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixnix (Post 3843773)
I remember both of them having terrible key signatures

what? why? in't it, like, C major?

or do you mean horrible in a sense that corgan was yet to discover black keys on the keyboard?

reprise85 04-03-2012 04:44 PM

i dont remember what it was in but it definitely wasn't C. D maybe.

TommyB 04-03-2012 05:10 PM

[big]LOL!!!!!!![/big]

WHat have i done?! i am just new to the seen!!!! lmao i do not understanjd the madness haHa1!! much like the othewrs HAHLOLx6 lets shake hands or something?

rottenugly 04-03-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyB (Post 3843906)
[big]LOL!!!!!!![/big]

WHat have i done?! i am just new to the seen!!!! lmao i do not understanjd the madness haHa1!! much like the othewrs HAHLOLx6 lets shake hands or something?

What's with the LOLxINSERTNUMBERHERE shit?

vixnix 04-03-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emilem (Post 3843892)
what? why? in't it, like, C major?

or do you mean horrible in a sense that corgan was yet to discover black keys on the keyboard?

Oh no, the version I had was F# major or something, I just assumed it was right.

TommyB 04-03-2012 05:40 PM

[quote=rottenugly;3843912]What's with the LOLxINSERTNUMBERHERE shit?[/QUOTE

omglol do i really have to explain it? r u being super serious or is that a lol

:rofl:

TommyB 04-03-2012 05:41 PM

by the way i once used mebey 7 swear words and it got deleted along with ALL my POSTS, , so you may want to watch the languiage!!!


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