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Cool As Ice Cream 11-27-2014 04:58 AM

expressing himself to the crowd with his body language

Eulogy 11-27-2014 09:44 AM

Pizza Club were you one of the douchebags on the rail who stood like a post even for silverfuck? Maybe go to a show to enjoy it and not to think about how you're going to report back to netphoria.

It was a great show.

Eulogy 11-27-2014 09:45 AM

And the setlist was a little boring but that's why I'm so shocked. Last time I saw them the setlist was great but the show sucked. Flipped it this time and I'm much happier.

Pizza Club 11-27-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4118014)
Pizza Club were you one of the douchebags on the rail who stood like a post even for silverfuck? Maybe go to a show to enjoy it and not to think about how you're going to report back to netphoria.

It was a great show.

Eulogy, are you one of those douchebags that tells other people how to enjoy concerts? Why is it does it matter to you? I'm not 21 anymore. And I worked all day. And stood waiting for four hours. So not that you deserve a response to fucking stupid post, but I got into it plenty, in my own fucking way, whatever it was because I'm an adult and paid my own fucking money to do whatever the fuck I want.

Cool As Ice Cream 11-27-2014 10:25 AM

that is right. i am calling you out.

Cool As Ice Cream 11-27-2014 10:25 AM

this is eulogy fuck

Eulogy 11-27-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 4118022)
this is eulogy fuck

:rockon:

Eulogy 11-27-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizza Club (Post 4118020)
Eulogy, are you one of those douchebags that tells other people how to enjoy concerts? Why is it does it matter to you? I'm not 21 anymore. And I worked all day. And stood waiting for four hours. So not that you deserve a response to fucking stupid post, but I got into it plenty, in my own fucking way, whatever it was because I'm an adult and paid my own fucking money to do whatever the fuck I want.

Yeah standing still and taking instagram videos the whole fucking time takes energy out. And you waiting for hours for a show at a venue that holds 840 people is your own dumb mistake. Wahh.

Eulogy 11-27-2014 10:58 AM

Like you're not 21 anymore but you still wait for hours outside of a venue with two different bars and restaurants attached to it. Ok bro.

Pizza Club 11-27-2014 11:58 AM

Cool.

bye june 11-27-2014 12:30 PM

SIL
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Raskolnikov 11-27-2014 12:48 PM

Even at a small venue, I so very much prefer dead front row to two rows back. Seems like I'm constantly distracted by somebody else's phone, or halfway through all of a sudden some jackass comes flying up at full throttle and shoves me to get in front of me.

For me, those extra few hours standing outside for front row are always worth it.

amoergosum 11-27-2014 02:42 PM

...just saw this tweet >>>



sneakyflutes 11-27-2014 09:26 PM

That seriously is the best Pumpkins shirt in years.

Spira|_ 11-27-2014 09:34 PM

From my first and fast viewing of the videos Billy looked into it and the vocals are much better. I notice some more passion there also.

werideatdusk 11-28-2014 04:15 PM

Okay, finally getting around to posting my thoughts...

One and All (We Are) (Live debut)
Being Beige (Live debut)
Hummer
Tiberius (Live debut)
Tonight, Tonight
Drum + Fife (Live debut)
Glass and the Ghost Children
Stand Inside Your Love
Monuments (Live debut)
Drown
Disarm
Zero
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Fame (David Bowie cover)
Silverfuck

Burnt Orange-Black

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The line was short so my girlfriend and I were front and center. It was annoying (to her in particular) that the doors open got pushed back a half hour, and the show was over an hour late. I get why they wanted more soundcheck time to rehearse, but starting the show so late was dumb. It's just a bit inconsiderate and didn't make sense, it's not like they were still practicing. But, anyways.... it was worth it....

Great show, great performance by Billy, new members were solid, and there was a very very different energy than the by-the-numbers performances during the Oceania era.

That was the first and foremost difference, and gave me a lot of hope for the future of SP beyond this album cycle. This felt like a totally different band than old SP (same as the last lineup) but for once Billy seems honestly to not care anymore, and to feel very present in his new band.

A lot of that has to do with the high level of respect he has towards Wilk and Stoermer, resulting in an easy chemistry and a playful ferocity that's far beyond what the Mike/Nicole lineup could pull off. It seems like first with the 07 lineup, then with the Oceania lineup, Billy became really hung up on the technical points of recreating the original music, and completely lost touch with the old spirit of live SP. The old band never cared much for flawless reproduction of the studio recording, was sloppy, playful, and vicious. Had a fierce heartbeat. Where was the heartbeat in the 09-13 era? I shouldn't complain because I did enjoy Oceania at the time, and I really really liked the 2011 shows with all the Pisces stuff, but now that it's different I see what was missing.

The dynamic between BC and Brad Wilk was much more similar to the BC/JC dynamic, a lot of mutual respect and musical collaboration. And playfulness!!! You know how BC would give that look to Mike like a scolding substitute teacher? None of that here.

That isn't to say that he's the ideal drummer for SP. While he held down the hard rocking parts with a solidity that Byrne certainly never had, it was clear that Wilk is not the most dynamic drummer. It felt like he struggled with the lighter, more subtle parts of songs. And he certainly did not attempt to play Jimmy's parts exactly (the way Mikey tried mightily, but never quite could). He reinterprets. Which is great in many ways, but also can be a bit distracting for those of us who know the songs really well. I'm not a drum expert but I certainly noticed a lack of snare rolls during songs like Hummer and Tonight Tonight, emphasis on the main beats but not a lot of flare.

The big thing was, Billy was more passionate and energized than I've seen him in a long time. I honestly think his solo experience at Ravinia reinvigorated his live persona a bit, and gave him a bit more confidence. And having something to prove always helps him out (aside maybe from 2009-10). He was particularly animated during "Drum + Fife", which he played with a ferocity of purpose that I haven't seen in him in a long, long time. "Fame" also had him at full on rock-star mode. Maybe he was energized to revisit Bowie by his visit to the (amazing) MCA exhibit?

I should also mention that Billy screamed the "CAAAAAGE" in BWBW with a lot of balls. Made me wish they'd played some catalog rockers like XYU, Fuck You, Bodies, etc.

As far as the setlist goes, the songs that benefited most from the heightened band energy and playfulness were the "Monuments" tracks, "Fame", and the goofball garage-rock version of "Silverfuck", which seemed to alternate between numerous semi-cliched beats and riffs, but was propelled by their enjoyment to be playing rock.

The Monuments tracks sounded great, in particular One and All and Tiberius. I will say the title track was kind of a letdown - I really dug the clip in the album preview, but the song played live was pretty repetitive, and the verses or what have you felt very strange and out of place. and the lyrics were dumb "lover, you're strange" or something...

It would have been nice to see more catalog tracks in there, especially ones that fit in with this more glam vibe. Cherub Rock, Quiet, Here is No Why, Mouths of Babes, Dross, and even some more recent stuff like Come on let's go, GLOW, or Glissandra would've been better than the umpteenth Tonight Tonight and BWBW. but that's just me talking. there's no denying that the big hits energize the crowd. itd just be nice if they got a little more daring since theyre playing these tiny venues to the die hard fans.

overall a great experience and a huge surge of new energy moving forwards. it'll be interesting to see if stoermer and wilk stick around for long, but either way, billy seems reenergized and i have to say that ditching mike and nicole feels like the right call.

slunken 11-29-2014 12:27 AM

Where was the heartbeat - spirits in the sky

pavementtune 11-29-2014 02:55 PM

mp3
https://drive.google.com/folderview?...U1dnZ4WTg#grid

review photos
http://twths.org/concert-review-smas...l-nov-26-2014/

http://twths.org/wp/wp-content/uploa...tography-5.jpg


http://twths.org/wp/wp-content/uploa...17-480x718.jpg

http://twths.org/wp/wp-content/uploa...ography-14.jpg

pumpkins 11-29-2014 04:09 PM

Thanks, pavementtune.

Caine Walker 11-29-2014 05:27 PM

fuck yeah, thanks man

Pizza Club 11-29-2014 05:52 PM

Thank you!

MyKeyZ 11-29-2014 06:37 PM

Too bad SP community doesn't have something like the NIN community's Reflecting The Chrome... http://www.ninlive.com/navbar/archives.html

Pizza Club 11-29-2014 11:31 PM

Yes we do

Pizza Club 11-29-2014 11:32 PM

But was does that have to do with anything

Slurpee 12-01-2014 04:40 PM

Wilk seems to have slowed the songs down a bit..

pavementtune 12-01-2014 11:03 PM

edit:
the same rec is on the zomb, just compressed
Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 4118860)

lineage: Tascam iM2>iPhone 4>RODE Rec>Audacity>Xact

http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=52640

Mals Marola 12-02-2014 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 4118860)

bless

amoergosum 12-02-2014 05:55 AM




MyOneAndOnly 12-02-2014 04:28 PM

finally got to listen to this show straight through. It sounds great. the new songs, if not at the same quality level, do fit fairly well in the set list with the old. With only a few exceptions the TBK songs were horrible live when mixed between older hits. Especially when they were touring with backing tracks (for synth). Songs like Freak or Astral Planes played next to Disarm or Zero were jarring.

I also like that the stage dressing is minimal. No more orb or video boxes or spinning windmills.


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