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God. Best show I've seen of them outside of the UC final show. Fame was amazing.
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waited 7 fucking years to hear Drown again. I'm still weeping.
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Ok not worth weeping over. But that was amazing.
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Review: crestfallen haha
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I took a video of SIYL (randomly) and Silverfuck that I'll try to get up tonight. Unfortunately, my new phone does not seem to do a good job of autofocussing. The sound...exists.
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Very quickly, some thoughts on the set:
Being Beige One and All - were pretty good. Hummer -Brad maybe ending the song a hair too early. I think it was this one. Tiberius -This song is cool live. I only listened to the album preview once so I don't really remember it from before. Tonight, Tonight -sounded like a rehearsal, but I'm not really counting that against them yet Drum + Fife Glass and the Ghost Children -different arrangement. Not as painful as '07. Started with bass and drums, but no drum intro. It wore out it's welcome. If you're going to rearrange this, please make it shorter BC. Stand Inside Your Love -eh, never too into this one. ? Monuments? DROWNDROWN DROWN (all is forgiven, forever) -always nice to hear again. another "i'm watching them rehearse this" feeling though. Disarm -some floor toms at the end but nothing too interesting. time to retire this one. Zero -nothing fancy. it does its job well as a crowd pleaser. Bullet with Butterfly Wings - #1 song that needs to go away from live shows imo. it was...okay. usually i dread having to sit through it again. maybe I only paid attention because of the new guys but it was tolerable, and for a while, enjoyable. Fame [Bowie] -this was awesome Silverfuck -this was mostly awesome. new arrangement with a thrash section. encore: Burnt Orange-Black -weird song to close with, but I don't have any problems with it yet I guess. It's kind of generic. |
Holy crap!...Billy's body language!...I haven't seen that in years!
And how about his vocals...there's some passion again! |
Of the new guys, Brad seemed the most nervous. There were definitely moments were you could tell "Oh right, he was in RATM" by how he went with brute force instead...well imitating JC. He doesn't imitate JC, at all. I don't know if I'm explaining that right, but I'm tired because I too, worked all day and waited in line to be in front.
Jimmy = grace, Brad = SMASH HARD. No judgement yet. Mark, on the other hand, seemed completely focused on what he was doing. He didn't have a mic, so he didn't say anything. In fact, he barely looked up. Musically, he fit in perfectly and he did move around and get into the songs. It feels like maybe Mark had more time to prepare maybe? Anyway, he was great I thought. I already liked him from The Killers though. Sorry for rambling. Just wanted to get my initial thoughts out. |
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I thought he'd do backing vocals (or even "second" vocals like Nicole) since he has a good voice, but either that would have been too much in this short rehearsal phase, or they don't want to? I was so hoping to hear a RATM cover, that would have been hilarious. Billy yelling "fuck you I won't do what you tell me", I need to hear that. re recs: I fucked up the video, not enough space and I was tired, but somebody else audiotaped. don't know yet how it turned out. some stuff is also in the dec 5 thread http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?p=4117832 oh we, we looked nice from the balcony! 2:24 and the new song was indeed Monuments https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3bW7c6CUAARtsp.jpg |
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ah I see, these are your uploads! thank you Pizza Club
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The setlist is a bit boring ... SIYL, Zero. BWBW, DIsarm ... heard a 1000 times live.
I´m going to Berlin, but I think I will get the same. Btw: Pumpkins will be on German TV Show "Circus Halligalli" (PRO7) next monday (Tickets for the show are sold out). |
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expressing himself to the crowd with his body language
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Pizza Club were you one of the douchebags on the rail who stood like a post even for silverfuck? Maybe go to a show to enjoy it and not to think about how you're going to report back to netphoria.
It was a great show. |
And the setlist was a little boring but that's why I'm so shocked. Last time I saw them the setlist was great but the show sucked. Flipped it this time and I'm much happier.
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that is right. i am calling you out.
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this is eulogy fuck
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Like you're not 21 anymore but you still wait for hours outside of a venue with two different bars and restaurants attached to it. Ok bro.
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Even at a small venue, I so very much prefer dead front row to two rows back. Seems like I'm constantly distracted by somebody else's phone, or halfway through all of a sudden some jackass comes flying up at full throttle and shoves me to get in front of me.
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...just saw this tweet >>>
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That seriously is the best Pumpkins shirt in years.
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From my first and fast viewing of the videos Billy looked into it and the vocals are much better. I notice some more passion there also.
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Okay, finally getting around to posting my thoughts...
One and All (We Are) (Live debut) Being Beige (Live debut) Hummer Tiberius (Live debut) Tonight, Tonight Drum + Fife (Live debut) Glass and the Ghost Children Stand Inside Your Love Monuments (Live debut) Drown Disarm Zero Bullet with Butterfly Wings Fame (David Bowie cover) Silverfuck Burnt Orange-Black --------- The line was short so my girlfriend and I were front and center. It was annoying (to her in particular) that the doors open got pushed back a half hour, and the show was over an hour late. I get why they wanted more soundcheck time to rehearse, but starting the show so late was dumb. It's just a bit inconsiderate and didn't make sense, it's not like they were still practicing. But, anyways.... it was worth it.... Great show, great performance by Billy, new members were solid, and there was a very very different energy than the by-the-numbers performances during the Oceania era. That was the first and foremost difference, and gave me a lot of hope for the future of SP beyond this album cycle. This felt like a totally different band than old SP (same as the last lineup) but for once Billy seems honestly to not care anymore, and to feel very present in his new band. A lot of that has to do with the high level of respect he has towards Wilk and Stoermer, resulting in an easy chemistry and a playful ferocity that's far beyond what the Mike/Nicole lineup could pull off. It seems like first with the 07 lineup, then with the Oceania lineup, Billy became really hung up on the technical points of recreating the original music, and completely lost touch with the old spirit of live SP. The old band never cared much for flawless reproduction of the studio recording, was sloppy, playful, and vicious. Had a fierce heartbeat. Where was the heartbeat in the 09-13 era? I shouldn't complain because I did enjoy Oceania at the time, and I really really liked the 2011 shows with all the Pisces stuff, but now that it's different I see what was missing. The dynamic between BC and Brad Wilk was much more similar to the BC/JC dynamic, a lot of mutual respect and musical collaboration. And playfulness!!! You know how BC would give that look to Mike like a scolding substitute teacher? None of that here. That isn't to say that he's the ideal drummer for SP. While he held down the hard rocking parts with a solidity that Byrne certainly never had, it was clear that Wilk is not the most dynamic drummer. It felt like he struggled with the lighter, more subtle parts of songs. And he certainly did not attempt to play Jimmy's parts exactly (the way Mikey tried mightily, but never quite could). He reinterprets. Which is great in many ways, but also can be a bit distracting for those of us who know the songs really well. I'm not a drum expert but I certainly noticed a lack of snare rolls during songs like Hummer and Tonight Tonight, emphasis on the main beats but not a lot of flare. The big thing was, Billy was more passionate and energized than I've seen him in a long time. I honestly think his solo experience at Ravinia reinvigorated his live persona a bit, and gave him a bit more confidence. And having something to prove always helps him out (aside maybe from 2009-10). He was particularly animated during "Drum + Fife", which he played with a ferocity of purpose that I haven't seen in him in a long, long time. "Fame" also had him at full on rock-star mode. Maybe he was energized to revisit Bowie by his visit to the (amazing) MCA exhibit? I should also mention that Billy screamed the "CAAAAAGE" in BWBW with a lot of balls. Made me wish they'd played some catalog rockers like XYU, Fuck You, Bodies, etc. As far as the setlist goes, the songs that benefited most from the heightened band energy and playfulness were the "Monuments" tracks, "Fame", and the goofball garage-rock version of "Silverfuck", which seemed to alternate between numerous semi-cliched beats and riffs, but was propelled by their enjoyment to be playing rock. The Monuments tracks sounded great, in particular One and All and Tiberius. I will say the title track was kind of a letdown - I really dug the clip in the album preview, but the song played live was pretty repetitive, and the verses or what have you felt very strange and out of place. and the lyrics were dumb "lover, you're strange" or something... It would have been nice to see more catalog tracks in there, especially ones that fit in with this more glam vibe. Cherub Rock, Quiet, Here is No Why, Mouths of Babes, Dross, and even some more recent stuff like Come on let's go, GLOW, or Glissandra would've been better than the umpteenth Tonight Tonight and BWBW. but that's just me talking. there's no denying that the big hits energize the crowd. itd just be nice if they got a little more daring since theyre playing these tiny venues to the die hard fans. overall a great experience and a huge surge of new energy moving forwards. it'll be interesting to see if stoermer and wilk stick around for long, but either way, billy seems reenergized and i have to say that ditching mike and nicole feels like the right call. |
Where was the heartbeat - spirits in the sky
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Thanks, pavementtune.
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