Why does Mellon Collie begin and end with a piano solo?
 

It hit me when I was listening to "Farewell and Goodnight" the other day. The song ends with a piano solo. It was obviously a conscious decision to begin and end the album with a piano solo, why do you think that decision was made? What does it mean artistically, creatively, symbolically, or otherwise to you?

To me, it must represent coming full circle. I remember the band mentioning that the album was supposed to represent a day in the life of a person so to me beginning and ending the album like this represents how we often end up starting where previously ended thus coming full circle (the end is the beginning is the end, the beginning is the end is the beginning).

I love coming full circle.

lolx6 its prolly cuz thats what he wanted to do? thats what i would assume lol for ever like y ask or something?

You want to really blow your mind? Play that last bit of Farewell and Goodnight backwards.

I don't know how to do that. What's the result?

mellon collie and the infinite sadness

I had MCIS played during my wedding processional. It's a beautiful piece.

I remember both of them having terrible key signatures and thinking they were obviously written by someone who had learned to play by ear. VIP roy though. I guess it's fairly common to start quiet, build up to something, and then end quiet. Just a nice form for music and it suited the tracks that had been recorded to be put in that order.

Lots of his big epic songs do that too iirc, Starla, Mayonnaise, Soma...He liked that form I guess and was good at writing that way.

That's a good theory but it doesn't explain why the piano itself was chosen as the instrument rather than something else.

My guess is that he had just started writing on it and was excited about it, and it was something that nobody had heard him do before, a suitable beginning to a concept album that aimed to be different.

OR

He was going through some kind of closeted affection for Elton John and it was a secret tribute. Who knows. I think it has more to do with the first one, though.

I had Tonight Tonight played at my brother's funeral and people were like :erm:

omfg i was wondering where the awesome kids ate lunch :cool: lolx90

second clue in the machina mystery right here

the first one being '2007' in PI

omg a piano! what's the meaning behind the choice for this specific instrument? why did they choose to play guitar on rocket? what does it mean? i think it's symbolic! somehow!

lol

Yes it's true, just like SP the band we have reached rock bottom in terms of topics.

LOL~! TELL ME ABOUT IT

maybe we could discuss like, why... oh i don't know, nevermind :dammit:

maybe you could like shut the fuck up and like get the fuck out of here?
just a suggestion. but also an order. thank you. LOL~

Actually, there's nothing wrong with this topic. It's pretty interesting imho. :smoke:

Him and FlutterShy or whatever are both ruining this place for the superfans.

How am I ruining anything? :think:

I can no longer tell if posts on here are trolls or not. It's all a big black blur.

Not you, CAIC was referring to TommyB and so was I.

exactly. spoontwat!

what? why? in't it, like, C major?

or do you mean horrible in a sense that corgan was yet to discover black keys on the keyboard?

i dont remember what it was in but it definitely wasn't C. D maybe.

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What's with the LOLxINSERTNUMBERHERE shit?

Oh no, the version I had was F# major or something, I just assumed it was right.

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omglol do i really have to explain it? r u being super serious or is that a lol

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even if it was F# or D it's still pretty common and non-terrible...

from the tab book i think:

http://www.musicnotes.com/images/pro.../MN0093415.gif

D flat then, seriously that is pretty awful, who writes in D flat. Someone who doesn't realize they're writing for the piano in D flat, would be my guess.

Oh and then it changes to E halfway through, brilliant.

How many pieces have you played in F#? I don't consider it a common key for the piano at all. We must play different stuff.

SIGHx3

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Well i've just read at Wikipedia that it's considered a very romantic key and has been used by a lot of composers for that reason so now I'm thinking that someone (Maybe Mike Garson?) transposed it to give it a more romantic sound. A shift to E would be nice I reckon, I've always been told that E is a bright, warm key.

Looks like my rather mean assumption is pretty baseless. Sorry Billy for insulting you.

You sound like a tool. Please stop.

:p

STFU. You dont know anything about music. Plz dont spam with shit.

Between show us a song you had composed. Anh?