If you're not Native, then don't go to coachella looking like this
 

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Starla, were you in KC long enough to hear the "Indian chant" popular w Chiefs football fans? I demonstrated it for a friend from Chicago and she was pretty taken back by it.

Lol! Was just laughing at that in robin hood men in tights.

its part of the culture of forgiveness and acceptance. nobody alive today killed those native americans. peace out

When I was going to Haskell, we used to get together and go to the games, and it never really bothered us. My dad was a chiefs fan, and since I was a kid I remember the chant. It still does not bother me, but there are a lot of Native activists who are against it.

These things don't really bother me as much as it does to see someone running around stoned or drunk looking like an idiot in a headdress. I don't even really get offended when I see white girls wearing moccasins or anything that's Native inspired, but once it starts infringing on sacred things that's different.

why is it ok for stoned and drunk people to do a chant for an american football team though? i guess i'm not seeing the difference really.

No they didn't, but they desperately want to be Native, so they take what does not belong to them and use it as a "costume". They are into their peace, love, and new age bullshit and have appropriated from people they know nothing about. I'll have to blame it on pure ignorance, being that they probably were not taught better in their public education or by their ignorant parents. But what really fucking amazes me is when a Native tells one of these idiots that this is disrespectful, they actually have the balls to say they disagree, get angry, and continue doing it.

The headdress is a symbol of spirituality for a chief in a tribe or medicine person. They didn't go to the craft store, get a piece of cheap material and hot glue a bunch of feathers to it. They earned those feathers over a life time for various spiritual reasons.

I don't even know why I should have to explain this.

Because it's not a Native chant.

We don't "chant" we sing songs, and they all are different and have different meanings.

A bunch of drunks sitting around saying "ohh woahhh.... " and beating a drum is just that.

But if they were to start singing sacred song...... then that is entirely something else.

lol ok that makes sense

so the festival people aren't wearing a native headdress. just like the football people aren't chanting a native chant.
same thing, really. yet the headdress offends you, but the chant doesn't.
i think you have issues.

It's not the same thing. Whatever they are chanting at the game and beating a drum is not Native. People who don't know better think it's a Native song. I guess that's why I laugh about it. If you are making a headdress that looks Native, then that is what you are doing.

Basically, I've never attended in a ceremony in my life that sounds like what they are doing at a Chiefs game.

Maybe you should just go dressed up as a slutty nun with a short habit and knee high boots or something, and call it even.

you could think the same thing about the headdress: people who don't know better think it's a native headdress. you could laugh about that too.

HHHNNNNNNNGGGGGGG.

really? :hurl:

@ starla, are you saying this is racist?

because perhaps you're the racist if you think cultural symbols belong entirely to YOU and YOUR "people" (as if there was a native american people...)

Be more jealous?

I agree. UNNNFFFFF.

no way i got HPV just from looking at those chicks

Starla can be offended by whatever she wants. I don't think at any point she said that other people shouldn't be offended by the Chiefs' chants, or whatever.


Also,

ahhhh hahahahahahaha

jealous my foot.

i think that blond on the right should stop wearing clothes all together.

Depends on what symbols they are. If they are symbols of my clan, then yeah they do belong to us and same goes for other tribes. ie an Apache wouldn't wear the symbols of another clan. Most symbols have certain spiritual meanings to them, so it's wrong for non natives or other clans to take them and bastardize them.

For the record, my dad and i went to a Chiefs game day after Christmas '11 and i (perhaps obviously) didnt do the chant.

And tbh, about half the stadium didn't. So, I dunno. Chiefs kinda suck anyway.

kinda? lol