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FoolofaTook 01-04-2019 09:15 PM

Gish vs. Adore
 
Well?

Mals Marola 01-04-2019 09:31 PM

Adore's the better album but Gish is more fun to listen to

Modern90's 01-04-2019 09:31 PM

i like both but gish would be my hill to die on

Mals Marola 01-04-2019 09:32 PM

I've been enjoying live Adore shit more than the actual album recently

fuckin' Kissed Alive Too, that's where it's at :stan:

Modern90's 01-04-2019 09:36 PM

adore is great and all but, personally i have to be in a certain mood to listen to most of that album.

Mals Marola 01-04-2019 09:40 PM

Adore has more moods going for it than people seem to give it credit for
Most of which I would say were "wistful"

butthurt 01-05-2019 01:09 AM

I need a track by track comparison.

Skradgee 01-05-2019 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4491777)
Well?

Well, herp a deeee derp.

New Art Rioter 01-05-2019 05:59 AM

Acid drenched psych solos any day

redbreegull 01-05-2019 08:40 AM

Gish is easier and more fun to listen to, but for the most part it's much less developed than any other SP1 album. Adore is the peak of Billy's songcraft

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 08:48 AM

the last four songs are very impressive. shame-nitemare-martha-blank page. like you said, strong songwriting.

johncg 01-05-2019 09:30 AM

The songwriting is way better on Adore but I just find Gish way more “alive” sounding. On Adore I feel like I can physically hear Billy painstakingly obsessing over how every second of every song sounds and what everyone’s public perception of him is. It just sounds like he’s lost in a sea of his own emotional baggage without the benefit of his trademark loud/soft dynamics, his incredible guitar playing, Jimmy’s drumming, or an actual producer to anchor him. I don’t know. It’s just not my vibe. But I dig it. And I respect Billy for putting himself in the difficult position of starting from zero without any of his aesthetic languaging to lean back on or a familiar approach to working.

NovaFritz 01-05-2019 09:34 AM

Adore is just meaningful on an entirely different level. Outside of Suffer and Snail Gish doesn’t do much for me.

panda show 01-05-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4491833)
the last four songs are very impressive. shame-nitemare-martha-blank page. like you said, strong songwriting.

100% agree, but I still pick gish over adore.

redbreegull 01-05-2019 02:22 PM

they are hard to compare because Bill's outlook as an artist on Gish vs. Adore is day and night. Gish is a naïve 25 year old on a fuck ton of drugs doing insane guitar solos and singing LSD fueled platitudes of self-empowerment, ready to take on the world. Adore is a grim and seasoned 33 year old man already "past his prime" and on the ropes against deep personal loss, huge public pressure, and a disintegrating band while coping by taking MDMA in a hot tub every night

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 02:33 PM

damn that sounds like a great way to cope

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 02:33 PM

also suffer has some of the most godawful b0lli vocals ever

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 02:34 PM

also just want to point out that all three mods have voted for adore

pale_princess 01-05-2019 02:48 PM

Gish. Adore is full of filler.

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 02:54 PM

thanks a lot for nothing!

johncg 01-05-2019 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pale_princess (Post 4491903)
Gish. Adore is full of filler.

This is why we are bffs. Thank u next.

Corgan's Bluff 01-05-2019 03:02 PM

Adore Gish

pale_princess 01-05-2019 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncg (Post 4491906)
This is why we are bffs. Thank u next.

:love:

Mals Marola 01-05-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4491901)
also suffer has some of the most godawful b0lli vocals ever

this is a random but, more importantly, wrong & ridiculous statement

sounds like '98 Billy isn't the only one doing MDMA in a hot tub!

Disco King 01-05-2019 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4491899)
they are hard to compare because Bill's outlook as an artist on Gish vs. Adore is day and night. Gish is a naïve 25 year old on a fuck ton of drugs doing insane guitar solos and singing LSD fueled platitudes of self-empowerment, ready to take on the world. Adore is a grim and seasoned 33 year old man already "past his prime" and on the ropes against deep personal loss, huge public pressure, and a disintegrating band while coping by taking MDMA in a hot tub every night

Christ, they were only that young when they recorded Gish?

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

johncg 01-05-2019 07:53 PM

That’s right loser. Welcome to netphoria.

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4491950)

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

Tolstoy was 58 when he wrote The Death of Ivan Ilyich.

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 08:24 PM

Conrad was 42 when he wrote Heart of Darkness.

FoolofaTook 01-05-2019 08:25 PM

Dickens was 48 when he wrote Great Expectations.

Elphenor 01-05-2019 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4491950)
Christ, they were only that young when they recorded Gish?

When I remember how young most notable people where when they did notable things, it really reminds me of how little I've accomplished in that same amount of time, and cements how I'll never accomplish anything consequential in my life.

Like, if I were ever going to be an accomplished scientist, a proficient musician, an interesting artist, a good writer, or anything like that… I'd already be one.

aren't you my age

you got one more year man, 25 is it, after that nothing you do matters


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