Catherine wheel: the British smashing pumpkins
 

If you look at their discography and Wikipedia entry it almost reads like a mirror image of SPs original run. Especially how similar ferment and chrome are to gish and Siamese Dream. I actually think they are more similar to SP than QOTSA or soundgarden

Rob Dickinson = less pretentious Billy Corgan lol

It seems like the biggest difference is that sp sold albums stateside and cw didn’t. But it seems like they really did come close to matching and mirroring them as far as their sound and the hits off the first three albums

referring to yourself in the third person and plural form?

now this is an episode of The Sharter Typology i do not wanna miss!

Except for the part where anyone knows who Catherine Wheel is lol

“Fluctuating levels of success” is what it says for them. Which means years with big fame and other times not so much. You could say same thing for SP

yyyyeah

Catherine Wheel sucks

The person and the band

When you say cw sucks you’re basically saying sp sucks. Lol You know what the only differences are between Chrome and Siamese Dream? The singing

That’s stupid.

How is chrome almost song for song not like Siamese Dream? In every way? There are maybe 1 or 2 songs that don’t match up

Cathy these are some spicy comments but god damnit you have me checking out this Chrome album just so I can see what the hell yer talkin about

ok so, this first track sounds nothing like Cherub Rock - it does however sound like some Oceania track that I don't remember the title of. Better than that track, granted, but even so

the 6/8 time sig doesn't really help yer case either

i guess it is somewhat ironic (only in the context of this thread) that Bill said he ripped the Siamese big muff tone off of a Catherine (no wheel) practice he'd walked into one day or whatev

this sounds more like what i've heard of Afghan Whigs than anything post-Gish SP

actually, i wanna go listen to Afghan Whigs now :stan:

Cw on chrome were a grunge band with shoegaze / hard rock influences just like Siamese Dream. The guitar tone isn’t exactly the same but it’s similar.

maybe SP are the American CW

Ferment and Gish aren’t as heavy and have a lot of the same influences

Nobody knows who Catherine Wheel are. This is a verifiable fact.

That’s like saying no one knows who dandy Warhols are cus they don’t sell albums here. The Dandy Warhols are the American oasis or the verve cus they still have hits here to back it up

feels like I'll need to delete some track by track comparison threads soon again

ok dude, also in the UK no one knows who CW are

Who?

I'm not entirely convinced you're not just making names up.

I don’t think rob Dickinson really cares that he never sold albums in the states everytime he cashes those radio royalty checks for black metallic and crank or collects streaming money for those songs

Catherine Wheel is a good band, but the only similarity they really have to the Pumpkins is that they are both shoegaze-influenced and like fuzz pedals. I wouldn't peg them as some Pumpkin doppelgängers, though I can see why one would like one band if one likes another.

Look, a lot of people listened to MBV and Slowdive in the '80s and liked them.

I honestly would have thought that more people on this forum would have heard of the band Catherine Wheel, and I really hope that their reception here isn't tainted just because some dumbass took his screen name after them.

I probably ruined Ufomammut for a lot of people, come to think of it.

It's kind of you to play along with this social experiment of his but really, you don't need to.

smashing pumpkins aren't british?

it's right in the name, they're smashing